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Old 11-08-2006, 03:24 PM
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Old 11-08-2006, 04:02 PM
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He didn't say it doesn't go on here everyday. He just said there isn't any sense in it. I can relate to that point of view.
People shouldn't take biased, narrow, uncharitable potshots at politicians, right?
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People shouldn't take biased, narrow, uncharitable potshots at politicians, right?
But that's one of my favorite things to do.
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Old 11-08-2006, 04:54 PM
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But that's one of my favorite things to do.
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Old 11-08-2006, 06:22 PM
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i was looking at the propositions for laws in various states and found a curious mix of liberalism and conservatism.

every initiative to allow same sex marriages failed.

every proposal to raise minimum wage passed

every proposal to legalize marajuana in some form passed.

it looks like the senate will be tied if you count lieberman as a dem. (?). allen of virginia's race (maccacca man) is ahead by 7000 votes out of 2.2mil. with 98% of the vote in. (that is really close). if he loses the dems have control of the senate, it appears, if all go as cnn is reporting at this time.

oh yeah, the dems need 51 to control since the vice pres can break ties.

it looks like the dems take control of the house.

it seems to me that the most key issue was the war.

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Not exactly correct...

Actually, every STATE-wide referendum on legalizing medical marijuana (or small amounts of marijuana for any reason, as in Nevada) failed this time around.

But every LOCALLY-based referendum concerning marijuana decriminalization passed.
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Marijuana Policy Project Alert November 8, 2006

3 out of 3 state marijuana initiatives fail; 10 out of 10 local initiatives pass

The Marijuana Policy Project's initiative to tax and regulate marijuana in Nevada was defeated last night by a 44% to 56% margin.

While this is a huge disappointment to all of us, more than four in 10 Nevada voters actually voted to end marijuana prohibition entirely. This is huge progress since the 39% to 61% defeat of a similar ballot measure in Nevada four years ago.

This year's attempt in Nevada was only the sixth time that anyone has attempted to pass a statewide ballot initiative to end marijuana prohibition in a state; the other attempts were in California in the early 1970s, Oregon in 1986, Alaska in 2000 and 2004, and Nevada in 2002.

Although we didn't win yesterday, the results demonstrate the voters' increasing willingness to reconsider our nation's marijuana laws. And we achieved this strong finish despite intense campaigning by the White House drug czar's office and the entire law enforcement establishment in Nevada.

The fact that we came close to victory while up against such powerful opposition is remarkable. And we're not giving up: We'll be back in Nevada to try again with another marijuana initiative in November 2008 or, more likely, in November 2010. The drug czar will keep trying to frighten people with lies, and we'll keep telling the truth, and eventually the truth will win.


In other election news, voters in 10 out of 10 communities in Arkansas, California, Massachusetts, and Montana passed a series of local marijuana ballot initiatives by wide majorities.

Unfortunately, voters in South Dakota narrowly defeated an initiative to protect medical marijuana patients from arrest and jail by a 48% to 52% margin.

In addition, Colorado voters defeated by a 40% to 60% margin a statewide initiative that sought to remove all penalties for the possession of up to one ounce of marijuana by adults aged 21 and older.

Notably, last night's change in leadership in the U.S. House of Representatives means that House leaders who have consistently opposed medical marijuana legislation will lose their committee chairmanships in January, and a strong supporter of protecting medical marijuana patients — Nancy Pelosi — will soon be House Speaker and choose the new slate of Democratic committee chairs. This will provide the most favorable conditions in Congress to pass federal medical marijuana legislation since I co-founded MPP in January 1995 (which was immediately after the "Republican Revolution" of November 1994).

The momentum is with us, but major social change never comes easily. We know we won't win every battle, but we win most of our battles.



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And the GOP has been blasting Nancy pretty good, too. They're all big boys and girls. They need to get over it.Is that any way to play nice? ?
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I fear that you are right about Pelosi, but she has an opportunity to show people how the House should be run. After the series of clowns that preceded her in the Speaker's chair, it shouldn't be too hard to draw a contrast. I'm allowed to be optimistic, right?
She has already tapped a moron from my state to head a major committee that is too stupid to tie his shoes so he wears zip up boots, so I am not real confident.
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Old 11-08-2006, 06:56 PM
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She has already tapped a moron from my state to head a major committee that is too stupid to tie his shoes so he wears zip up boots, so I am not real confident.
Looks like William Jefferson will get back into Congress. Anybody know how much seniority he has?

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Old 11-08-2006, 09:03 PM
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it doesnt help anything to call names and just be plain nasty.

lets give them a chance to do something good. bush wont veto everything. there will be plenty of things he wants to get through and will just have to play ball to do it.

things will happen but not too big and not too fast.

a little grid lock is exactly what the forefathers envisioned when they set up our elaborate system of checks and balances.

i will lean back a bit now and see what happens.

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Old 11-08-2006, 09:16 PM
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it doesnt help anything to call names and just be plain nasty.

lets give them a chance to do something good. bush wont veto everything. there will be plenty of things he wants to get through and will just have to play ball to do it.

things will happen but not too big and not too fast.

a little grid lock is exactly what the forefathers envisioned when they set up our elaborate system of checks and balances.

i will lean back a bit now and see what happens.

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Old 11-08-2006, 09:19 PM
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I just started paying attention to the lady today on the tv.

That is interesting reading about the lowly weed Mike. My opinion is that the current laws are antiquated.
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Old 11-08-2006, 09:34 PM
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She called him the worst leader ever yesterday and "the emperor with no clothes." If she can restrain herself no more than that, she isn't smart.

He's going to veto everything that ***** puts up. Maybe Webb and that guy from Montana will be able to help with that......'course there's Joe L........
Dude, dude, Pelosi does not own the house. Bush'll veto a few things... oh well. At least he won't be the kid with his daddy's army and credit card surrounded by a bunch of yes men any more.

Considering the ultra-partisanry of Tom DeLay and the K-street project boosters, I don't see things getting any worse than that.

How's that go again, "It's morning in America..." -- an end to this "mourning in America" crap (one hopes).
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I only hope your assessment of Pelosi and the dems leadership will prove to be correct. Who wants the country to destroy itself over partisan bickering. Impeachment hearings would be a big mistake.
The problem the dems face is that now they must govern; not merely whine and criticize what others do. It is far more difficult to act positiviely than tp snipe. You know, losing seems to bring the dem's kook fringe to the fore; perhaps winning will put them back on the back bench
For the good of the country, i wish them well.
On the bright side for everyone, a lot of the newly minted Dems this time around strike me as pretty centrist. Look at Webb, Reagan's Sec. of Navy, formerly a Repub, the guy does not look at all like an ultra liberal. Course, he hasn't won irrevocably yet; it's hard to imagine anyone to the left of him winning in Virginia, when you look at how narrowly he appears to be winning now.

And Tester doesn't strike me as a liberal screamer neither. Some of the Repubs in Mt. were running him down with something like, "sure he's a farmer but he's an ORGANIC farmer!" Oh no, not that!

I'm hoping the Dem party in general will try hard to hang onto their new emergence from the sidelines by avoiding the sort of wild flamboyance and arrogance that'll end their celebration sooner than they want.
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1. My impression is that the newly elected are moderate Democrats, not ideologues.

2. Demos were elected as a repudiation of Bush's war strategy (essentially, "Vote for me, I'm not a Republican"), not because of a cohesive policy agenda that they put before the voters.

3. Most of the newly elected entered power from a seat that is not very secure for either party.

4. Lacking a coherent plan and gaining power over both houses of Congress will result in an awful lot of midnight oil burning by both parties as they reconfigure themselves.

5. It takes a super majority vote to override a presidential veto.

Taken together, I think the above observations indicate that the country as a whole did not take a big leftward shift. What happened was that Demo leadership selected people who could get elected, given the district they were in. The positive side of that strategy is that the Democrats have gained an awful lot of power. The downside is that the old-guard Democrat pols are decidedly to the left of many of the freshmen class of Democrats. Forget gun control, forget socialized medicine, and other dreams that the far left Demos have dreamed of for decades. Before the committee chairs negotiate compromises with Congressional Repos and way, way before they take something for Bush to veto, they will have to negotiate with their own newbies. This will provide 24 months of entertainment.
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Old 11-08-2006, 10:07 PM
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The downside is that the old-guard Democrat pols are decidedly to the left of many of the freshmen class of Democrats. Forget gun control, forget socialized medicine, and other dreams that the far left Demos have dreamed of for decades. Before the committee chairs negotiate compromises with Congressional Repos and way, way before they take something for Bush to veto, they will have to negotiate with their own newbies. This will provide 24 months of entertainment.
That thought crossed my mind too. It's just as well, IMO. The old guard, specially Kerry and Kennedy, need a little shaking up. I'd like to see Mass. replace either or both with another demo in their next primaries. Not likely a Repo would win in the Senate there, though they have had a number of repo governors.

Gun control is likely to never fly in a big way in this country and even if it did, the black market in guns would erase most any gains in crime reduction anyway.

Socialized medicine is something we need to look at IMO. Don't get in a fix where you might need an emergency room is SoCal cause there's a good chance the ambulance will have to drive you around for a few hours until they can find an ER that isn't completely jammed and overwhelmed with indigents who use ERs as their health care provider of first and last resort. What's worse, many ERs are at the point of having to shut down because they just can't afford the current setup. Something is very wrong with that picture.

Add to that the way multi-nationals are bypassing the US in favor of countries such as Canada who make life a lot easier for them by removing the expense of providing health care to their employees, and we've got a problem Houston. Corporate welfare? Maybe, but they're gonna go where life is friendly to them.
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Dude, dude, Pelosi does not own the house. ).

Dude, it totally has to do with committee assignments.

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