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t walgamuth · #1 11-07-2006, 11:19 PM

i was looking at the propositions for laws in various states and found a curious mix of liberalism and conservatism.

every initiative to allow same sex marriages failed.

every proposal to raise minimum wage passed

every proposal to legalize marajuana in some form passed.

it looks like the senate will be tied if you count lieberman as a dem. (?). allen of virginia's race (maccacca man) is ahead by 7000 votes out of 2.2mil. with 98% of the vote in. (that is really close). if he loses the dems have control of the senate, it appears, if all go as cnn is reporting at this time.

oh yeah, the dems need 51 to control since the vice pres can break ties.

it looks like the dems take control of the house.

it seems to me that the most key issue was the war.

tom w

retmil46 · #2 11-07-2006, 11:37 PM

And it looks like the Dumbo's worst nightmare will come to pass - Nancy Pelosi, the Wicked Witch of the Left, as Speaker of the House. But from what I've seen of her, it'll probably be the Jackasses (and the country's) worst nightmare as well!

What's that proverbial curse, "May you live in interesting times"?

Looks like the next couple of years are sure gonna be interesting.

t walgamuth · #3 11-07-2006, 11:43 PM

oh well, she might not be that bad.

i will sleep easier knowing that there will be a little more balance out there for the next two years.

one party rule results in too much change and disruption.

tom w

t walgamuth · #4 11-07-2006, 11:51 PM

allen just dropped back to second place with 99% reporting, but it looks like the repubs will still have 50 and control of the senate.

tom w

Botnst · #5 11-07-2006, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by t walgamuth

i was looking at the propositions for laws in various states and found a curious mix of liberalism and conservatism.

every initiative to allow same sex marriages failed.

every proposal to raise minimum wage passed

every proposal to legalize marajuana in some form passed.

it looks like the senate will be tied if you count lieberman as a dem. (?). allen of virginia's race (maccacca man) is ahead by 7000 votes out of 2.2mil. with 98% of the vote in. (that is really close). if he loses the dems have control of the senate, it appears, if all go as cnn is reporting at this time.

oh yeah, the dems need 51 to control since the vice pres can break ties.

it looks like the dems take control of the house.

it seems to me that the most key issue was the war.

tom w

Excellent synopsis.

To me it this election is the 2nd-best outcome.

The best outcome would be for close elections to go to neither Repo nor Demo but to go to 3rd party candidates. Second best is a divided gov with at least one house in the opposition to the Executive.

I was just watching Charlie Rose and one of the talking heads made an excellent point, IMO. The Democrats need to restrain themselves from over-reaching in their newly-acquired oversight capacity. Look for legitimate grievances but for goodness sakes at least appear to avoid using the power for crass political purposes (this is the Repo transgression vs Clinton--Repos went too far).

Conversely, the Repos should remember that they gained power by being the reform party, a central point they have suppressed in the past 3-6 years in power. In the 1990's they were the cure for the problem and they stupidly became that which they sought to reform.

Bot

MS Fowler · #6 11-08-2006, 12:03 AM

Gridlock can be a beautiful thing

retmil46 · #7 11-08-2006, 12:22 AM

They pointed out on CNN that if the House goes Jackass, but the Senate stays Dumbo, it will be the first time since they started electing Senators by popular vote (100 years or better?) that the Senate and House will be divided like this.

oasis100 · #8 11-08-2006, 01:32 AM

looks like the Dems are going to take the Senate also.

retmil46 · #9 11-08-2006, 01:50 AM

Looks like Allen/Webb might go into recount, by law if less than 1/2 a percentage point difference.

No preference either way on this one, but Webb did make a decent SecNav. Former Marine LT, had enough balls to stand up to the SecDef when he thought he was wrong, and resigned rather than pass on what he felt was a bunch of BS policies from the SecDef to the people under him.

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retmil46 · #11 11-08-2006, 02:11 AM

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Element · #12 11-08-2006, 03:18 AM

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cmac2012 · #13 11-08-2006, 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Botnst

I was just watching Charlie Rose and one of the talking heads made an excellent point, IMO. The Democrats need to restrain themselves from over-reaching in their newly-acquired oversight capacity. Look for legitimate grievances but for goodness sakes at least appear to avoid using the power for crass political purposes (this is the Repo transgression vs Clinton--Repos went too far).

Conversely, the Repos should remember that they gained power by being the reform party, a central point they have suppressed in the past 3-6 years in power. In the 1990's they were the cure for the problem and they stupidly became that which they sought to reform.

Well put. I think Pelosi is more solid than people give her credit for. Her father was mayor of Balitmore, I believe. Some neat pictures of her as a pretty young girl in the car at various innagural parades.

She's saying she wants no retribution and an honest and above board operation. I think she was smart to say impeachment is off the table. It'd be a GDed circus. Leave that crap to the Repos.

But if the Dems actually take the senate, looks like they might (?!??!), could be the impeachment brew ha-ha will pick up momentum. I think it'd be a mistake. I'll be happy with Dubbers have checks and balances for a change.

Can you say Quack, Quack!! while limping, Mr. Bush?

cmac2012 · #14 11-08-2006, 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by retmil46

Looks like Allen/Webb might go into recount, by law if less than 1/2 a percentage point difference.

No preference either way on this one, but Webb did make a decent SecNav. Former Marine LT, had enough balls to stand up to the SecDef when he thought he was wrong, and resigned rather than pass on what he felt was a bunch of BS policies from the SecDef to the people under him.

I like Webb much better than Allen. Seems like more of a genuine man's man.

These legacy, silver spoon babies -- Allen, Kerry, Gore, Bush (41,43), Kennedy -- they're a pain. Don't really impress me too much. We need some self made men, women too, just not Hillary.

cmac2012 · #15 11-08-2006, 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Element

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