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Old 11-13-2006, 06:54 PM
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Are you a big FLW fan?
I am going to get flamed for this but.....we have four FLW homes in town and I have friends that have lived in two of them and I have been in three. I must say that they are neat on the outside the interiors are more fanatical than functional. The FLW homes here flip often so if you want one move wait a couple years and they are only 10% above an equivalent home.

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Old 11-13-2006, 06:57 PM
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i've been to muncie.....(spent five years there actually...in architecture school)

i am looking forward to sheboygan and racine!

btw racine has an excellent visitors center out by the interstate done in a serously frank lloyd wright style.

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Old 11-13-2006, 07:04 PM
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I am going to get flamed for this but.....we have four FLW homes in town and I have friends that have lived in two of them and I have been in three. I must say that they are neat on the outside the interiors are more fanatical than functional. The FLW homes here flip often so if you want one move wait a couple years and they are only 10% above an equivalent home.
The one in my neighborhood isn't such a home--it is incredible--at least $2.5M and worth it. It has been intentionally kept out of the books, and i was going to offer to snap some pics of it for TW if he wanted.
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Old 11-13-2006, 07:05 PM
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I am going to get flamed for this but.....we have four FLW homes in town and I have friends that have lived in two of them and I have been in three. I must say that they are neat on the outside the interiors are more fanatical than functional. The FLW homes here flip often so if you want one move wait a couple years and they are only 10% above an equivalent home.
He designed a lot of homes, didn't he? IIRC there's one in Jackson, MS near the old Capitol and one somewhere out in the country, maybe Hazelhurst? I remember driving (slowly, as a pilgrimage) by the one in JAX. The yard plants obscured it from the road and it was kind of run-down.

There's an architect from Arkansas named E. Fay Jones who worked for Wright. I worked on a private project with Jones back in the mid-1980's. I drove him around southern MS so he could get a feel for the communities. Jones told me about the home in Jackson.

Several years ago I happened to go through northern Arkansas and stopped by Thorncrown Chapel, which Jones designed. It is an awesome structure. It reminded me of a chapter from the Fountainhead (Ayn Rand) in which the central figure designed and built a temple that caused an awful lot of upset in the community. I believe Ayn Rand based the character on FL Wright.

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Old 11-13-2006, 07:10 PM
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Yeah, but a helluva lot better that Sheboygan or Muncie.
I've been to Sheboygan. A friend of mine lives in Sheboygan. Racine is no Sheboygan.

Somebody go *****-slam Dan Quayle.

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Old 11-13-2006, 07:14 PM
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I've been to Sheboygan. A friend of mine lives in Sheboygan. Racine is no Sheboygan.

Somebody go *****-slam Dan Quayle.

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Old 11-13-2006, 08:22 PM
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Are you a big FLW fan?
yes. not many architect's work make me feel inadequate, but his does. when i was in school we watched a film of him talking about his work. it impressed me as a lot of bs. and for a long time i kindof resisted considering his work at all. but gradually i looked at it and now i really admire his work.

i dont admire him much as a person though. when he was still fairly young he ran off to europe with his best client's wife, leaving behind a wife and three or four kids in oak park. he never returned. and he lived out the rest of his life doing whatever he pleased personally without regard to other folks. amongst the things that happened in his wake was a servant flipped out at his home in wisconsin and set fire to the house, then stood at the door with an ax and killed folks as they ran out. one of the victims was flw's live in mistress. flw was in town when it happened.

so i saw below you were thinking of pics...sure. i would love it.

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Old 11-13-2006, 08:26 PM
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I am going to get flamed for this but.....we have four FLW homes in town and I have friends that have lived in two of them and I have been in three. I must say that they are neat on the outside the interiors are more fanatical than functional. The FLW homes here flip often so if you want one move wait a couple years and they are only 10% above an equivalent home.
we have one in west lafayette. these homes were designed a long time ago so many things we take for granted now were not considered then. kitchens for example were often miniscule, designed to be used by hired help. some like the one here were designed to be inexpensive. the man who owns the one here built it a long time ago on a professor's salary when they made relatively less than now. his wife is gone but he is well at about 93, and is setting up a fund to perpetuate his home as a museum. it is really nice. but the kitchen isnt much bigger than my pantry!

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Old 11-13-2006, 08:28 PM
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He designed a lot of homes, didn't he? IIRC there's one in Jackson, MS near the old Capitol and one somewhere out in the country, maybe Hazelhurst? I remember driving (slowly, as a pilgrimage) by the one in JAX. The yard plants obscured it from the road and it was kind of run-down.

There's an architect from Arkansas named E. Fay Jones who worked for Wright. I worked on a private project with Jones back in the mid-1980's. I drove him around southern MS so he could get a feel for the communities. Jones told me about the home in Jackson.

Several years ago I happened to go through northern Arkansas and stopped by Thorncrown Chapel, which Jones designed. It is an awesome structure. It reminded me of a chapter from the Fountainhead (Ayn Rand) in which the central figure designed and built a temple that caused an awful lot of upset in the community. I believe Ayn Rand based the character on FL Wright.

Rambling complete. return to normal programming.

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i dont think i knew jones worked for wright. i have visited the chapel. i admire it a lot.

falling water in pa is worth a trip... i am wanting to see the gugenheim in ny.

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Old 11-13-2006, 08:37 PM
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we have one in west lafayette. these homes were designed a long time ago so many things we take for granted now were not considered then. kitchens for example were often miniscule, designed to be used by hired help. some like the one here were designed to be inexpensive. the man who owns the one here built it a long time ago on a professor's salary when they made relatively less than now. his wife is gone but he is well at about 93, and is setting up a fund to perpetuate his home as a museum. it is really nice. but the kitchen isnt much bigger than my pantry!

tom w
One of the homes here is a small studio like set up, two other are $500,000 which is a tad above the median home for the neighborhood, the other which was originally built by the Dow's (dow chemical) is huge I am not sure how much it would sell for but it has the watch tower office and many other unique amenities. The community that they are in and where I went to school had a population of less than 5000 at the time so everyone knew about the FLW homes. There are a few (I think 10) more FLW homes but for some reason they don't get the nod from the FLW registry or something, I am not sure what the criteria is to get the official OK from the FLW guys.
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Old 11-13-2006, 08:49 PM
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HIJACKED!!!

To those of you who may wonder why someone would pose these types of questions on a forum such as this, I reply by saying "why not?"

I have just as good of a chance of getting good advice here as anyplace else and no one has a biased opinion toward me or my wife, friends, kids etc...

I'm old enough to take it for what it's worth.

I do agree that after all these years, I have changed and have lost some of the patience that I use to have with these quiet spells of hers. That's my fault, not hers.

We had a real good weekend(we generally do) and got some things out of the way so things are all good in the hood once again.

I do love the suggestion of telling her to bring all phone conversations to the house for a face to face though. Good stuff!

Muchas gracias!

And now, back to our regularly scheduled programming!
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Old 11-13-2006, 10:12 PM
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sorry about the hijack on an important personal issue.

i am glad you are feeling better about your wife.

i am honored that you feel we can give serious advice. and i think it is true.

best wishes.

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Old 11-13-2006, 10:27 PM
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I agree that the advice here can be reliable.

Hijack again:
Has anyone visited the roofless church in New Harmony IN? Done by the same architect who did the High Museum in Atlanta (I think) but I can't remember his name. It's one of my favorite churches, almost as powerful as Mont St. Michel and it is right across the street from Paul Tillich's grave.

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