Oedipus Wrecks
 

I've got to feel for ol' Bush 41. The strain of his situation may be showing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AEme73QJ2U

I mean here his dimwitted son has taken his name and tarnished it, torpedoing the future prospects of the son everyone thought was the real talent in the family anyway, that is, Jeb. (Did Jeb retire as Florida gov. or was he beaten out in primary? Term limited?)

And then to have junior going out of his way to say he isn't concerned with his father's counsel, and behaving as though the wise men sent in to save him are merely incidental to his decision making....

When are we going to abandon the fiction that anything is to be gained by following his leadership? In the parliamentary system, wouldn't we be able to have a vote of no confidence and jettison this baggage?

Yeah, I did feel sorry for him in that video. Very awkward moment to catch on video.

As for the parliamentary system, yes, something similar happened to our last government. The Liberal goverment was plagued by scandals, issues of accountability, etc. and they were brought down by a vote of no-confidence in Parliament. It was the first time in Canada that a government had fallen on a straight motion of no-confidence. Stephen Harper, our current Conservative PM, introduced the motion in the House of Commons, the House voted, and it passed.

Basically, the House - and Canada - had lost confidence in the current Prime Minister and his government, and the House took them down. :behead:

If I got anything wrong, I'm sure a fellow Canadian will correct me. ;)

2008

I liked the old guy, was a good president a fine leader. Not too sure what he was all broken up about in that video though. Almost like Jeb died or something.

As for the current Bush, does anyone believe he's going to "change the course" in Iraq? Personally, I think he's gonna snub most of the advice he's received from the committee and continue on the "stay the course" route. With the Exception perhaps of increasing troop strength, which will undoubtedly have little to no results at this stage in the war.

I believe the only way to get out of Iraq is to let the Iraqi army take over, although after 3+ years of training troops they don't seem to have the loyalty needed to do the job and I doubt they ever will. There will be no troop withdrawals in Iraq while GWB is president. He will run our military into the ground and hand the mess over to the next president to decide what to do. George has never admitted the mistakes he's made and he never will.

Real classy, cmac. Exploit an old man's outpouring of emotion regarding his children because you don't like one of his kids. Real classy.

whoops! that was wierd--I posted that three times to a 'server not found' message and it showed up three times! Will correct.

he said he's gotta feel for him.

what do you want?

pretend the emporer has clothes?

tom w

i liked the old man. he had good qualities. but he was just average at best. he only looks like a genius in comparison.

tom w

Another interviewer said the current Iraq fiasco will be the end of Jeb's political future, he wouldn't even be able to run for dog catcher. He said, that the Bush dynasty is OVER.

Well, I say GOOD. American is no place for a dynasty...and when will the Kennedy dynasty finally be over with?

I agree with that. I wouldn't vote for Jeb even he could change water into wine. Several conservatives I know were pissed that Jeb didn't run in 2000, considering Jeb the conservative and Dubyuh a weakly moderate. They liked Dubyuh after 9/11 and pretty much up until he started trying to socialize medicine and not vetoing domestic spending bills. I think that dang bridge in Alaska tore it.


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PS Now water into oil, I might consider.

Hate poisons the soul.

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It's a very moving clip. He obviously loves his son very much, and was moved to tears.

I actually attended a speech give by George H.W. Bush at a trade function in Reno several years ago.

I wasn't expecting much from him because as President he wasn't known for being a good communicator, like Reagan or Clinton, and he appeared stiff on TV.

I was quite surprised at how different he was in person. He was very charismatic. He was quite handsome, especially for his age. And tall. I think you'd all be surprised at how tall he is in person. I wouldn't be surprised if he is at least 6'3", probably 6'4" tall.

He also came off as warm and caring.

After his 45 minute speech, we all gave him a loud and exuberant standing ovation, for at least 3-5 minutes, and he appeared genuinely appreciative of the gesture.

And you know what? I think part of the reason for the response of the audience was that we are all caught off guard as to how different he was in person compared to our expectations.

i wouldnt be surprised if al gore is like that too.

some folks just clam up in front of a camera.

tom w

Actually, I was just going to say that I've heard reported numerous times that Al Gore, in person, is actually a warm and engaging person, and that all who know him can't understand how he changes so much on camera.

>pretend the emporer has clothes?<

tom w[/quote]

...I think this is classy... :)