I have not been able to make a successful Black and Tan. I used a tall lager glass and poured the Bass slowly doun the side--no head. Then I tried both the turtle and an inverted spoon. My guess is that the tall glass allowed the Stout to fall to far, and pick up too much speed to allow it to layer on top of the Bass. My next trial will be with a shorter beer glass, and maybe that will help.

Can anyone offer some experienced advice? Please, as soon as possible. I am having company over in an hour and I want to serve them Black and Tans. As it is, I am "forced" to consume all my misteaks, missstakes, uh, failuresss......

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1982 300SD " Wotan" ..On the road as of Jan 8, 2007 with Historic Tags

try pouring the stout first.....I hope your using Guiness.

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'08 Chevy Tahoe
'93 Ducati 900 SS
'79 Kawasaki KZ 650
'86 Kawasaki KX 250
'88 Kawasaki KDX200
'71 Hodaka Ace 100
'72 Triumph T100R

I'm pretty sure you're supposed to pour the stout last, that's how they always do it at the bar anyway.

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-justin

1987 300TD, 1987 300TD
2008 R32, 2000 Passat Wagon

I can keep them completely separated until they are consumed by using two glasses.

Black & tan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UooPDEA89eU

Further research reveals that I have the "wrong" Guiness. ( Actually typing "wrong" and "Guiness" in the same sentence was very difficult.)

I used Extra Stout; I have since discovered that I needed the Stout with the gas capsule- Different gas for the carbonation is what I am told.

As for the getogether last nite...No one complained about the "failures".

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1982 300SD " Wotan" ..On the road as of Jan 8, 2007 with Historic Tags

MS, if you're using a tall glass and inverted spoon and still can't get separation, find a sacrificial spoon and bend the handle so that you can get it right down to the Bass level and lift it slowly as you pour the Guinness.

If nothing else, enjoy your practice runs!

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1980 300TD-China Blue/Blue MBTex-2nd Owner, 107K (Alt Blau) OBK #15
'06 Chevy Tahoe Z71 (for the wife & 4 kids, current mule) '03 Honda Odyssey (son #1's ride, reluctantly) '99 GMC Suburban (255K+ miles, semi-retired mule) 21' SeaRay Seville (summer escape pod)

That could be the case. I couldn't remember how they did it last time I had one......go figure.

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'85 300SD (formerly california emissions)
'08 Chevy Tahoe
'93 Ducati 900 SS
'79 Kawasaki KZ 650
'86 Kawasaki KX 250
'88 Kawasaki KDX200
'71 Hodaka Ace 100
'72 Triumph T100R

Any Guinness in a can is the right can, but there are two types sold in a bottle, one with the gas capsule and one without.

All the Guinness that is "correct" for a Black & Tan is labeled as "Guinness Draught".

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-justin

1987 300TD, 1987 300TD
2008 R32, 2000 Passat Wagon

Going from memory years ago when I worked at a pub, we used a bitter (Tartan) with the guiness, and yes you need the nitrogen gas for this to layer so the can or bottle with the pellet is essential. We never wasted much effort layering it, the tartan was fairly dark in colour, so it never really mattered much. I always recommended a sleeve of each if someone wanted them separated.

The tragedy of having to buy more Guiness has befallen another.

May we all be so lucky.

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-Marty

1986 300E 220,000 miles+ transmission impossible
(Now waiting under a bridge in order to become one)

Reading your M103 duty cycle:
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/831799-post13.html
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/831807-post14.html

Its a burden I shall live with.

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1982 300SD " Wotan" ..On the road as of Jan 8, 2007 with Historic Tags