Bro....the point is that it is a crime just to have the intent.

What you're forgetting is that if the cop hadn't been there, then a crime would have taken place. What would have happened if there was a real 12 year old girl in that house? Do you think the pedophile would have had some sort of epiphany and decided that he needed help?

It isn't entrapment unless the cop gets you to commit a crime that you wouldn't have otherwise committed. Unless of course you'd rather the cops have placed a minor inside the houseto be sexually assaulted, and then arrest the guy on his way out.

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What? Since when? Thats not right, if someone intends to kill someone, and then they die anyway, do you lock the guy up for murder? or attempted murder or anything else?

Conspiracy to commit murder. Happens all the time when a spouse gets busted trying to have the partner offed....

Well, if the 22 year old girl wasn't there the house wouldnt be in the picture, then the guy wouldnt show up so no crime would be committed, the drug dealer wouldnt be there and they wouldnt be buying drugs. The crime wouldnt be taking place. The 12 year old is hypothetical, so in the end the guys getting convicted of attempting to do something that is theoretical. This was all in 'Minority Report'.

Gents,

I think we have a politician in the making here.

See thats another set of hypothetical and stuff that wasn't there. They die from a heart attack, doesn't matter. No murder took place, the guy is still guilty by your logic there. If you think thats right, OK. I'm saying I dont.

I thought that entrapment only applies if the girl pushes herself on you as a minor or in the case of drugs, if the cop offers to sell it to you. IOW, if YOU solicit the cop, all bets are off. He cannot solicit you.

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Thats twice this week, someone asked if I was running for President in '08 like yesterday.

And see theres the fine line, kind of. The girl asks the guy to come over.

I'd vote for ya....

Austin, please read this as it specifically adresses your assertation about entrapment on the Dateline NBC show.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11131562/

And they state my point repeatedly, the supposed minor, the supposed this and that, PROFESSIONAL decoy, but lots of people say they are and aren't things on the internet. Whether it's entrapment or not, and still debatable, just because stone phillips says it isn't dont make it so, its still not a minor they ARE talking to. Its one of them agree to disagree. Do they go arrest the guy if he says OK, see you in a few, then doesn't show? Ahhh... its only illegal if they actually show up so they aren't getting them on intent, but then they are? nothing makes sense. EXTREMELY SIMPLE solution - actually make the decoy 12 years old? Or 14 or whatever. Have them meet the guy, and then you gots you a case. their way, it doesn't work. But my way is 'immoral' or some jazz.

You don't like the way the police work is being done, and maybe you have a better method? The problem has increased many fold with the advent of internet chat rooms. Before that, the predator might have been a neighbor, an uncle, or friend of the family. Now, total strangers are crossing state lines, and there are only a handful of ways to snag these people in the act.

Consider a guy who shows up to rob a business, but all the cash is already deposited at the bank, so he gets no money. Is he a criminal or not?

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FWIW....My good friends 8 yr old grandson in Dallas, goes to school on the bus.
The driver will not drive until he/she can see all the children's heads above the seats in his/her interior rear view mirror and will stop the bus if someone 'disappears' during the trip.

This is a sad commentary on what the kids themselves get up to.

The fact that kids will talk about sex to anyone in a chat room is evident they are not informed about the dangers of doing so.....besides, they should be monitored and this falls under the parents or guardians jurisdiction.

My 12 yr old granddaughter is never allowed to operate the computer without her mother in the room.


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Sounds like a lawyer and a prosecutor both trying to argue their case in court to me.

The intent thing seems sticky to me. It does sound something like entrapment, too. I'm not saying I wouldn't want to see the guy prosecuted, only that I think a good defense attorney might be able to get him off.

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