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Hammertime · #1 02-20-2007, 09:41 PM

I just watched another episode of an ongoing report by the name of ”To catch a predator “on NBC Dateline. I tell you it personally disgusts me to witness the droves of men risking all to come and molest some pre-teen kid. It is simply the lowest form of crime along with hurting the elderly. It agitates me to watch weirdo after weirdo sit there and play stupid to questioning and then the old “I never did this before, it’s my first time doing this…” after which these creeps cop the I need “help” BS that continues to perpetuate crime in the country.

You know I say how about they take a few of these “angels” to town center on Friday night and in front of the whole community, the news agencies and proper authorities collectively we hock their n$ts off with hedge sheers. Let’s see how many more of these cockroaches need “help” after a few dozen of them get their onions chopped off.

I am no means in favor of capital punishment as a blanket deal, but you know something so vile and evil as this deserves just due. I do believe that some of those Far Eastern and South American countries have the right idea in some cases. It seems here in the US everyone sits around making sure the violator has his rights protected but what about the victim?

Botnst · #2 02-20-2007, 09:44 PM

Weed the garden.

aklim · #3 02-20-2007, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammertime

after which these creeps cop the I need “help” BS that continues to perpetuate crime in the country.

You know I say how about they take a few of these “angels” to town center on Friday night and in front of the whole community, the news agencies and proper authorities collectively we hock their n$ts off with hedge sheers. Let’s see how many more of these cockroaches need “help” after a few dozen of them get their onions chopped off.

Well, the "I need help" has worked before so why not use it again and again? It is because someone is sympathetic enough to believe that tripe. A couple years ago a student faked her kidnapping in WI. After she was found out, what do you think her parents did? Run to a mindfawk to say she needs help.

cmac2012 · #4 02-21-2007, 12:10 AM

I agree that those cats look pretty ugly and clueless.

Not sure that public castrations are a good way to go, however.

I've never had sex with an underage lady, even when I was a teenager -- sorta of a late bloomer -- 19 for me with a 23 year old.

But, in the years since I have rarely encountered such willing and horny females as some in the 13 to 18 year old category. Our ancestors evolved for untold hundreds of thousands of years (millions, going back to pre-humans) in no small part because of the potent come-hither pheromones put off by virginal women in their prime.

It drove me purt near nuts a few times, to encounter some babe 16 year old who was giving me the best, or only offer I'd had in the last few months.

There's no easy answer to this, our lives are way different than they were 30 K years ago, it doesn't really work to have teenagers humping their way to parent hood before they're 17. But I can understand the fixation some men have on teenage girls.

BENZ-LGB · #5 02-21-2007, 08:06 AM

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But, in the years since I have rarely encountered such willing and horny females as some in the 13 to 18 year old category. Our ancestors evolved for untold hundreds of thousands of years (millions, going back to pre-humans) in no small part because of the potent come-hither pheromones put off by virginal women in their prime.

It drove me purt near nuts a few times, to encounter some babe 16 year old who was giving me the best, or only offer I'd had in the last few months.

But I can understand the fixation some men have on teenage girls.

I find all three statements above to be somewhat disturbing--all for different reasons.

An older man's attraction for a young woman has long been a central theme in popular culture. Just look at Nabokov's "Lolita."

Society, as a whole, partially shares in the blame for this sexual fixation on young girls. Just look how even very young girls are sexualized in the media. Or just look at the sexualization of girls in beauty contests (Joan Bennet Ramsey). Incidentally, watch Little Miss Sunshine if you already haven't. The movie takes a sharp knife at the "little misses" beauty pageants.

Still, no matter how society oversexualizes young people, no matter how attractive that 16 girl or boy may look like, no matter how horny an adult may feel, it is ultimately wrong to sexually abuse children. Period.

I have prosecuted countless child molesters. They always come up with similar excuses:

1. The girl asked for it (I heard this one from a 40 yo man who claimed that his g/f's 8 yo daughter wanted to suck his johnson);

2. I was just teaching her/him about sex;

3. It was her mom's fault because (a) she left us alone unsupervised, (b) she was not giving me enough sex or (c) she put us up to it;

4. Historically it has been OK to have sex with young kids, so what is the problem?;

5. The girl is really "developed;"

6. Etc., etc., etc.....

I have also seen the harm and the pain inflicted on young people by men (and women) who use them sexually.

It is wrong on so many levels.

I hope that programs like the NBC program continue to show how sick these people are.

They probably deserve whatever "jail justice" they may get.

aklim · #6 02-21-2007, 08:16 AM

My first time was when I was 16 with a 27 yo woman. Since then, I have always gone with older women. Wife is 4 yrs older than I am and is the youngest girl I have ever dated. Personally, I have never had much interest in children so I guess it is safe to assume I will never molest one. Most girls I am even fascinated by have been women over the age of 25. So I guess I can't understand how anyone can be so tempted by kids and I suppose my application to NAMBLA will be rejected.

raymr · #7 02-21-2007, 08:26 AM

If you've ever seen shows like Super Sweet 16, and the likes, you would see 16 year old girls that may as well be 25. Part of the problem is these kids needing to feel grown up before they are ready. They do present a sexual image, right or wrong. And once again, its the parents who should be at least trying to put a damper on those raging hormones.

I'm sure that's the excuse more sex predators will be using: "I thought she was older."

Kuan · #8 02-21-2007, 08:50 AM

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If you've ever seen shows like Super Sweet 16, and the likes, you would see 16 year old girls that may as well be 25.

Yep, but once they start talking you realize that they're still 16.

el presidente · #9 02-21-2007, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by BENZ-LGB

Still, no matter how society oversexualizes young people, no matter how attractive that 16 girl or boy may look like, no matter how horny an adult may feel, it is ultimately wrong to sexually abuse children. Period.

Agree 100%. Seems simple to me....

BENZ-LGB · #10 02-21-2007, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Kuan

Yep, but once they start talking you realize that they're still 16.

Oh my gawd, that's like so totally awesome...

aklim · #11 02-21-2007, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BENZ-LGB

Still, no matter how society oversexualizes young people, no matter how attractive that 16 girl or boy may look like, no matter how horny an adult may feel, it is ultimately wrong to sexually abuse children. Period.

I have prosecuted countless child molesters. They always come up with similar excuses:

1. The girl asked for it (I heard this one from a 40 yo man who claimed that his g/f's 8 yo daughter wanted to suck his johnson);

2. I was just teaching her/him about sex;

3. It was her mom's fault because (a) she left us alone unsupervised, (b) she was not giving me enough sex or (c) she put us up to it;

4. Historically it has been OK to have sex with young kids, so what is the problem?;

5. The girl is really "developed;"

From your list of "reasons", you should be able to see that these people, like Hitler, don't really believe what they are doing is wrong. NAMBLA has even got a few publications by people who claim that a loving man-boy relationship is indeed helpful to the child, provides a good father figure or whatever. Now, most of them will tell you that they believe that same cliche because it helps them sleep better at night. AKA Rationalization. If we could talk to Hitler, he'd tell you that he was killing off Jews because they were causing all kinds of problems. Just like smallpox or rodents so why the big fuss?

As such, talking right or wrong is meaningless since people can define right or wrong any which way they want. Therefore, I put it simply to you that:

IT IS ILLEGAL.

jlomon · #12 02-21-2007, 11:55 AM

Yes it is illegal and immoral to take advantage of minors, even if they have physically developed into adults (although not mentally developed). And I think that the harshest penalties should be applied to people who take advantage of minors. Having said that, I also think that western society at large also has a role to play.

Our media and entertainment has been going through a very intense wave of sexualizing teen girls for the past decade. Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera are immediate examples Sex was (and still is) used to market their music when they first hit the scene in their mid-teens. Supermodels, barely dressed on the runways, are often aged 15 and 16, and are just as often washed up by age 21. Our daughters emulate their speech, their habits and their style of dress. We let our teenage girls go out in public dressed like skanks, in barely-there tops and low-rise pants that show off thongs. Corporations are allowed to make hundreds of millions of dollars by exploiting that sexuality and selling that image.

Instead of just being outraged on a case-by-case basis we should be prepared to say "no" to the wholesale exploitation of teenage sexuality for marketing profit. That's the real ugliness, as far as I'm concerned.

AustinsCE · #13 02-21-2007, 12:06 PM

Umm...but what exactly did they do that was illegal? The girl is actually 20 something isnt she? Or is it a different show?

AustinsCE · #14 02-21-2007, 12:11 PM

And you know, it wasn't too long ago girls were getting married and starting families a lot younger than 16? The problem isn't that they are growing up too fast its that they never grow up at all and 25 let alone 16 is still too young. Not to mention, if they are old enough to start having sex does it matter how old the person they're having it with is?

BENZ-LGB · #15 02-21-2007, 12:48 PM

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And you know, it wasn't too long ago girls were getting married and starting families a lot younger than 16?

Not too long ago:

1. It was OK to own slaves.

2. Women were not allowed to vote.

3. Jews, Italians, Irish, Germans and most recent immigrants were thought of as sub-humans.

4. Property owners had signs that read: "No dogs, Jews, Blacks, Mexicans (or whatever group) allowed."

5. Japanese-Americans were herded, pursuant to an executive order signed by FDR, into concentration camps ont he mere suspicions that they were traitors.

So what is your point?