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Surf-n-Turf 02-26-2007 01:57 PM

%&@%$&* car insurance rates!!!
 
Sorry, just have to vent.:mad:
I insure myself (43)...my wife (49)...and 2 sons (17-19)
cars-2005 silverado 3500 diesel--2006 Hyundai--1989 Chevy Astro--1989 420SEL.
6-months premium==$3700. Full coverage only on truck and Hyundai. That is the absolute cheapest I can find (AIG). Is it just a Florida thing now or does that seem in line with the rest of the country?

The big companies, State Farm, Allstate, etc. were in the $6000+ for the same coverage.

Unleashed 02-26-2007 02:09 PM

If it's any consolation insurance for myself only on one car (my 2.5-16) was £1600 for one year - $3250.

SwampYankee 02-26-2007 02:14 PM

Holy shnikies!

I'd imagine your boys are throwing you off. I've got full coverage on my '03 Odyssey, '00 Jeep TJ and my TD (mainly for glass coverage which I take advantage far too often for some reason) for myself (37) and the Mrs. (36) through Allstate and it's about $2400/yr. (I could probably do better if I tried). I'm afraid to think what it will be by the time my kids start driving.

When I was 18 I had liability only on a '77 F350 4x4 and my insurance was $1800/yr.

Rock Chalk 02-26-2007 02:17 PM

Check w/ an insurance broker--not a salesman from a specific company. If there is a better deal out there they will likely find it.

Mistress 02-26-2007 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Surf-n-Turf (Post 1431877)
Sorry, just have to vent.:mad:
I insure myself (43)...my wife (49)...and 2 sons (17-19)
cars-2005 silverado 3500 diesel--2006 Hyundai--1989 Chevy Astro--1989 420SEL.
6-months premium==$3700. Full coverage only on truck and Hyundai. That is the absolute cheapest I can find (AIG). Is it just a Florida thing now or does that seem in line with the rest of the country?

The big companies, State Farm, Allstate, etc. were in the $6000+ for the same coverage.

Surf- I feel your pain dude- try Liberty Mutual. I lived in Fla. most of my life and when I moved up north my insurance dropped 50%! They said it was cause of all the old people driving down there and getting in wrecks. Are any of your kids chipping in for the insurance?

TheDon 02-26-2007 02:18 PM

did you try esurance?

Surf-n-Turf 02-26-2007 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mistress (Post 1431907)
Surf- I feel your pain dude- try Liberty Mutual. I lived in Fla. most of my life and when I moved up north my insurance dropped 50%! They said it was cause of all the old people driving down there and getting in wrecks. Are any of your kids chipping in for the insurance?

Kids...1 in college. Would rather he spend his money on food and rent. The other one is pitching in. What blows me away is if it was just my wife and I and 4 cars=$850 for 6 months. Having the kids on jacks it up $2850.:eek:

Surf-n-Turf 02-26-2007 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 1431909)
did you try esurance?

They were like $6500.

Zeus 02-26-2007 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Surf-n-Turf (Post 1431877)
...and 2 sons (17-19)

There's 80% of your premium. Teenage boys' rates are probably the same everywhere - high. :D

I remember how much I paid, even accident-free, as a teen and in my 20s. It was ridiculous. When I hit 30, the rates dropped by a fair margin.

I also remember an article I read a little while ago about the most frequently stolen vehicles in the US and the top 5 were almost all trucks, so that may be affecting your rates as well.

That quote doesn't seem outrageous to me, just my $0.02...

PaulC 02-26-2007 02:25 PM

I'm going to presume that the Hyundai is one of their smaller models. If so, smaller cars are more likely to be seriously damaged in an accident and more likely to be totalled, which doesn't bode well for the insurance company or it's policyholders. The Silverado diesel, like most pickup diesels, is a car thieves wet dream. Hopefully Chevy had the foresight to include the VATS anti-theft system on these models, which will keep away the more casual car thief. From that perspective, Ford Super Duty pickups are a trip back to the Seventie's, with just the steering column lock keeping thieves at bay. A talented 12 year old could steal one of those, and it would be in a shipping crate bound to Mexico in about 24 hours.

Anyway, If you can't get a better break on the policy cost, I would take a long hard look at the economics of swapping out the Hyundai for a medium-sized American sedan like an Taurus or Impala. Poorer fuel economy, but probably the easiest class of automobiles to insure.

SwampYankee 02-26-2007 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Surf-n-Turf (Post 1431914)
Kids...1 in college. Would rather he spend his money on food and rent. The other one is pitching in. What blows me away is if it was just my wife and I and 4 cars=$850 for 6 months. Having the kids on jacks it up $2850.:eek:

Don't forget beer money.;)

coadman 02-26-2007 02:45 PM

Your kids are what is causing your high rates! I have one just turned 16 and my rates really raised through the roof! A sympathetic insurance agent, told me( off the record), to buy some old junker car, whether it be running or not, and put my son as the primary driver on that car(liability only). Havent done it yet, but if I have to buy an older junker, I would just as soon be something I can drive!(lol)
coadman

Jim B. 02-26-2007 04:32 PM

I agree with everyone, it is the two teenage males on the policy that is causing the high rates. The insurance costs are high because the claims history for unmarried males under 25 is so high. I have been there myself as a teenager, youthful exuberance, inexperience, feeling invincible, and more than my share of accidents and tickets.

MattBelliveau 02-26-2007 04:36 PM

I'm 27. My rates were always pretty rediculous (not $3k rediculous, mind you) up until about 2-3 years ago. Right now I'm paying ~$600 annualy (liability on the benzo).

sfloriII 02-26-2007 04:39 PM

When I changed from Progressive to GEICO a few years ago my policy was cut nearly in half! Give them a call to see what they can do for you.

I also remember moving from MD to VA and my policy dropping $800/year. The only change to the policy was the fact that I was out of that horrible state!

Glad to be permantly in VA!!

Diesel4me 02-26-2007 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by sfloriII (Post 1432075)
When I changed from Progressive to GEICO a few years ago my policy was cut nearly in half! Give them a call to see what they can do for you.

I also remember moving from MD to VA and my policy dropping $800/year. The only change to the policy was the fact that I was out of that horrible state!

Glad to be permantly in VA!!


Yeah GEICO is the bomb. When I had the VW they were far less than the competition. You should see how low they go for a 41 year old male with no tickets or accidents driving a minivan. Incredible.

engatwork 02-26-2007 07:46 PM

And I thought $800/year on the '81 300D was high:rolleyes:.

RobTheMod 02-27-2007 01:02 AM

Well, I'm still waiting for that 30 yr old premium *drop*.

No tickets, no accidents, '81 + '76 MB, '87 Audi, $140/mo.

I want it to be $50/mo like it is for my 80 yr old grandpa. Oh wait, per car it is! But still, I'm paying more at 31 than I did at 29. Hmmm??

Mistress 02-27-2007 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Diesel4me (Post 1432323)
Yeah GEICO is the bomb. When I had the VW they were far less than the competition. You should see how low they go for a 41 year old male with no tickets or accidents driving a minivan. Incredible.

so what do you pay? I'm paying 423.00 a year for a 90' 420 SEL. I only drive on the weekends.

Surf-n-Turf 02-27-2007 02:39 PM

Thanks Mistress for the liberty mutual tip. I can get it there for $6993 for 12 months. A little less than I have now, but they will go a whole year.

Mistress 02-27-2007 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Surf-n-Turf (Post 1433259)
Thanks Mistress for the liberty mutual tip. I can get it there for $6993 for 12 months. A little less than I have now, but they will go a whole year.

Listen, ask about good student discounts (if the kids have good grades) I got a 10% discount because i work at a hospital. ask about that, AAA. You have to ask for these extra discounts they don't just give em out.

Surf-n-Turf 02-27-2007 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mistress (Post 1433263)
Listen, ask about good student discounts (if the kids have good grades) I got a 10% discount because i work at a hospital. ask about that, AAA. You have to ask for these extra discounts they don't just give em out.

Yep, I'll sit down with an agent first. Hopefully it's a female so I can wow her with my dashingly good looks and talents of the tongue.:D

Johnhef 02-27-2007 03:01 PM

I'm 24 for a few more months, have the R350 (full), the 87 300D (liability) and the 82 300CD (liability) insured with Nationwide (as well as my house) and my payments up to this most recent one were $1610 every 6 months. My bill I got last week dropped to $1092 for some reason and I haven't figured out why, although I'm not complaining! My only ticket was in December 2004, so I'm assuming maybe it was the points from that went away? I could have sworn they said those stick for 3 years.

Mistress 02-27-2007 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Surf-n-Turf (Post 1433273)
Yep, I'll sit down with an agent first. Hopefully it's a female so I can wow her with my dashingly good looks and talents of the tongue.:D

Also, if you get your house insurance with them you get another discount. I don't know how much they give for the Clark Gable good looks but my agent is italian and our granmothers came from the same village in Italy so that counted for another 2% off.

davestlouis 02-28-2007 12:21 AM

I have an 18 year old who has hit everything in sight and a 16 year old who is just getting his license, and they cost me about $6500/yr combined. The next one will be 15 in 3 months...can't wait!

BENZ-LGB 02-28-2007 02:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mistress (Post 1433263)
Listen, ask about good student discounts (if the kids have good grades) I got a 10% discount because i work at a hospital. ask about that, AAA. You have to ask for these extra discounts they don't just give em out.

I had an insurance carrier that wanted to charge more for lawyers.

The company said that as a group, we lawyers are too aggressive, too wound up, too confrontational and like to drive fast red cars.

Now, anyone who knows me knows that I am none of the above.

Go figure! :D

BENZ-LGB 02-28-2007 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by davestlouis (Post 1433978)
I have an 18 year old who has hit everything in sight and a 16 year old who is just getting his license, and they cost me about $6500/yr combined. The next one will be 15 in 3 months...can't wait!

I got three young drivers and one just around the corner.

And in California girls don't even get a break on their insurance rates, so I am hosed.

I feel your pain man!

Mistress 02-28-2007 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BENZ-LGB (Post 1434033)
I had an insurance carrier that wanted to charge more for lawyers.

The company said that as a group, we lawyers are too aggressive, too wound up, too confrontational and like to drive fast red cars.

Now, anyone who knows me knows that I am none of the above.

Go figure! :D

Well, if she said anything about you being Cuban you could sue her...hahahahahhahaha. We all know that your a very level headed gentleman (in every sense of the word) you are cool, calm and collected in every situation....well except for when guys look at your daughters then that all falls apart.

Mistress 02-28-2007 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BENZ-LGB (Post 1434034)
I got three young drivers and one just around the corner.

And in California girls don't even get a break on their insurance rates, so I am hosed.

I feel your pain man!

Hey what do insurance companies do if your kids are hermaphrodites- do you get hosed twice?

Dee8go 02-28-2007 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BENZ-LGB (Post 1434033)
I had an insurance carrier that wanted to charge more for lawyers. . . .

I wonder if that was punitive, because of them being sued a lot?

I'm sure it wasn't that. It's jes bidness . . .

Hatterasguy 02-28-2007 01:57 PM

I pay $150 a month for my cars, no collison, so $1800 per year.

Collision for someone my age, yeah that would be like another $2k-$3k on top of that!:D :eek:

Insurance companies rape you, I know people with a few accidents that pay $5k a year.:eek:

Surf-n-Turf 02-28-2007 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Hatterasguy (Post 1434515)
I pay $150 a month for my cars, no collison, so $1800 per year.

Collision for someone my age, yeah that would be like another $2k-$3k on top of that!:D :eek:

Insurance companies rape you, I know people with a few accidents that pay $5k a year.:eek:

Check with your agent. Comp and collision should be alot less than liability.:confused:

BENZ-LGB 02-28-2007 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mistress (Post 1434488)
Well, if she said anything about you being Cuban you could sue her...hahahahahhahaha. We all know that your a very level headed gentleman (in every sense of the word) you are cool, calm and collected in every situation....well except for when guys look at your daughters then that all falls apart.

You know me all too well. :D

Of course I just infracted for telling someone to :fork_off:

Which I will do again, on a heartbeat, I am just that kind of a guy!

Oh my, is that ground for a second infraction????

You may soon have to start a "Where is BENZ-LGB" thread.

Surf-n-Turf 02-28-2007 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BENZ-LGB (Post 1434560)
You know me all too well. :D

Of course I just infracted for telling someone to :fork_off:

Which I will do again, on a heartbeat, I am just that kind of a guy!

Oh my, is that ground for a second infraction????

You may soon have to start a "Where is BENZ-LGB" thread.

Odd, it doesn't show an infraction on your profile. Mine does.:(

Dee8go 02-28-2007 02:30 PM

Infracted?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BENZ-LGB (Post 1434560)
You know me all too well. :D

Of course I just infracted for telling someone to :fork_off:

Which I will do again, on a heartbeat, I am just that kind of a guy!

Oh my, is that ground for a second infraction????

You may soon have to start a "Where is BENZ-LGB" thread.

Is that a real word? "Infracted?" I guess that's okay as long as you didn't "infarct." Now, THAT would be bad!

Hatterasguy 02-28-2007 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Surf-n-Turf (Post 1434522)
Check with your agent. Comp and collision should be alot less than liability.:confused:

I did, I am getting the best price. Our agent is good I should be paying $500-$1k more per year.:D

Surf-n-Turf 02-28-2007 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hatterasguy (Post 1434571)
I did, I am getting the best price. Our agent is good I should be paying $500-$1k more per year.:D

Pshew, better than $2k-$3k. Problem with full coverage is the (rip off) insurance companies would say your car is only worth $1500. if it gets totalled. Whereas you might have been able to sell it on the open market for $6000.

Mistress 02-28-2007 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BENZ-LGB (Post 1434560)
You know me all too well. :D

Of course I just infracted for telling someone to :fork_off:

Which I will do again, on a heartbeat, I am just that kind of a guy!

Oh my, is that ground for a second infraction????

You may soon have to start a "Where is BENZ-LGB" thread.

No, no only the highest of honors for you , your honor...i will start a Sit Shiva thread...


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