Chateau pond demons aid "watt dove?.. uck!"

;-)

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-Marty

1986 300E 220,000 miles+ transmission impossible
(Now waiting under a bridge in order to become one)

Reading your M103 duty cycle:
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/831799-post13.html
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/831807-post14.html

there is a right brainer whose left brain has now gone into sudden death overtime....

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"It's normal for these things to empty your wallet and break your heart in the process."
2012 SLK 350
1987 420 SEL

I'm happy just to worship nouns and verbs while allowing adjectives and adverbs to serve as saints.

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1977 300d 70k--sold 08
1985 300TD 185k+
1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03
1985 409d 65k--sold 06
1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car
1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11
1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper
1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4
1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13

Catma: Relative metabeliefs. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHgioUGVQF8

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'07 Yukon 2500
'13 Subaru Outback 3.6R
'13 Orbea Carpe 9-speed

Currently Benzless
Formerly: 300TD, S600, E55, 560SEL

---= The forest breathes, listen.
-Native American elder

In the 'Nothing exists' problem is it that nothing exists or that nothing exists... how about 'no thing exists?'

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-Marty

1986 300E 220,000 miles+ transmission impossible
(Now waiting under a bridge in order to become one)

Reading your M103 duty cycle:
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/831799-post13.html
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/831807-post14.html

Either way, some 'thing' is uttering or writing the sentence so we get pushed back into the dilemma's of being and language. Language is not going to let either us or God or objects not exist.

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1977 300d 70k--sold 08
1985 300TD 185k+
1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03
1985 409d 65k--sold 06
1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car
1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11
1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper
1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4
1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13

exist-
1. To have actual being; be real.
...

seems it's a question of the 'actuality' or the 'realness'

I've allways felt it wasn't necessarily a great idea to keep it real all the time.

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-Marty

1986 300E 220,000 miles+ transmission impossible
(Now waiting under a bridge in order to become one)

Reading your M103 duty cycle:
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/831799-post13.html
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/831807-post14.html

Yes. I'm under the impression that EPrime is just trying to avoid the problem. Minimize the use of 'to be' and the problem might disappear into the background.
Our language assumes that things are real (nouns) and they move or effect other things(verbs). I think this causes the questions such as "What does it mean to be real" or "How real are real things?" There doesn't seem to be any straightforward easy answer to those questions, but I see no point in covering them up, particularly since we draw distinctions all the time between more and less real things (dreams vs. material objects).

What does it mean to be? To be the subject of a meaningful true proposition????

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1977 300d 70k--sold 08
1985 300TD 185k+
1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03
1985 409d 65k--sold 06
1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car
1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11
1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper
1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4
1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13

Relatively nothing... therefore God exists!... as long as you don't say so.

__________________
-Marty

1986 300E 220,000 miles+ transmission impossible
(Now waiting under a bridge in order to become one)

Reading your M103 duty cycle:
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/831799-post13.html
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/831807-post14.html

Nothing or no thing?

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'07 Yukon 2500
'13 Subaru Outback 3.6R
'13 Orbea Carpe 9-speed

Currently Benzless
Formerly: 300TD, S600, E55, 560SEL

---= The forest breathes, listen.
-Native American elder

Know thing?

__________________
-Marty

1986 300E 220,000 miles+ transmission impossible
(Now waiting under a bridge in order to become one)

Reading your M103 duty cycle:
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/831799-post13.html
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/831807-post14.html

Sgt. Schultz was a Buddhist?

http://frogstar.soylentgeek.com/wav/nothing.wav

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'07 Yukon 2500
'13 Subaru Outback 3.6R
'13 Orbea Carpe 9-speed

Currently Benzless
Formerly: 300TD, S600, E55, 560SEL

---= The forest breathes, listen.
-Native American elder

How about this: Only things and concepts are named. We "name" a vacuum because we lack the conceptual ability to leave that which has no possibility of definition, undefined. Thus, we say, "the vast nothingness of space." Hmm, no, that doesn't work, either.

Space exists as a hyper-dimensional field of potentialities.

Kerry, I'm feeling sucked into your universe in which language implies God.

Hmm, thinking about it some more. Is this the problem that Huserl (sp) dealt with through framing and epoche? Might have to try slogging through that dense stuff...again. It whupped me the last time.

B

4B. Bot appears bright and cheerful on holiday at the beach.

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'07 Yukon 2500
'13 Subaru Outback 3.6R
'13 Orbea Carpe 9-speed

Currently Benzless
Formerly: 300TD, S600, E55, 560SEL

---= The forest breathes, listen.
-Native American elder

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrShK-NVMIU

__________________
'07 Yukon 2500
'13 Subaru Outback 3.6R
'13 Orbea Carpe 9-speed

Currently Benzless
Formerly: 300TD, S600, E55, 560SEL

---= The forest breathes, listen.
-Native American elder