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Brian Carlton · #31 03-02-2007, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by thorsen

So if an officer asks to come into my house, I should let them?

If he's asking politely, then they don't have a warrant and you can send them away.

If he's ordering you to open the door........or else........they either have the warrant or they are operating under "exigent circumstances" as Ernesto mentioned above.

They don't need a warrant if they hear a woman screaming for her life inside the house..........and they won't likely be asking your permission to enter the house in those circumstances.

BENZ-LGB · #32 03-02-2007, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by thorsen

So if an officer asks to come into my house, I should let them?

Well, that is entirely up to you. Do you have any outstanding warrants?

But seriously, if they ask for permission to come in: "Mind if we look around?"

You can say YES OFFICERS or you can say NO OFFICERS.

BUT, if you say NO OFFICERS, and they still wish to come in...you'd be crazy to stand on their way and refuse entry.

1. They are bigger than you are (usually).

2. If not 1, above, they have more and bigger weapons than you have (again usually).

3. There is a separate charge for obstructing justice or interfering with an officer while in the performance of his duties. That's not fun.

4. If they had no reason for coming in, by blocking their way and physically preventing them from coming in, you have now potentially given them reason to come in after all.

The choice my friend, is entirely yours!

If it was me, however, I'd let the legal system sort things out and not risk a worse scenario!

aklim · #33 03-02-2007, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Nate

If he's found guilty, then punishment should be death.
Same with all crimes of this type, and murder...

~Nate

Why? You don't hang a man for rape.

BENZ-LGB · #34 03-02-2007, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim

Why? You don't hang a man for rape.

Wait 'till you get raped.

You will be singing a different tune...maybe on a higher key!

Brian Carlton · #35 03-02-2007, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BENZ-LGB

Well 'till you get raped.

You will be singing a different tune..maybe on a higher key!

..........you driving to Wisconsin soon.........???????

BENZ-LGB · #36 03-02-2007, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Carlton

..........you driving to Wisconsin soon.........???????

I am not into:

1. rape

2. into sex with men

I leave both activities, either separately or in combination to others.

Not passing judgment on those who enjoy consensual sexual activities with others of their own gender, however.

Brian Carlton · #37 03-02-2007, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BENZ-LGB

I am not into:

1. rape

2. into sex with men

I leave both activities, either separately or in combination to others.

Not passing judgment on those who enjoy consensual sexual activities with others of their own gender, however.

It was the "Wait 'till you get raped" comment that confused me............

...........like their was prior knowledge of the event before it occurs..........

Hammertime · #38 03-02-2007, 07:54 PM

I fully understand due process and the right to a fair trial but far too many times there are clearcut cases of violation. Lets look at this Couey case, they had to move him to Miami to insure a impartial jury and we seem to cow tow and diddle with the importance of the violators right while media turns focus on the victims families, their shortcomings, their weaknesses and such.
Here this Couey clown is drawing pictures, making a mockery of the system only to possibly get carted off to the rubber room.

Thats what peeves me, this Carly Brusscia got kidnapped, raped, exploited, killed and left in the weeds to rot. What does the media focus on; we'll the mother has/had a drug problem, attacking the families honor and completely removing the focus off where it should be IMHO...the perp. I tell you when the gun is smoking and the evidence is so direct and indisputable why should taxpayers foot the bill for this type of circus. We are not talking about a "we think you robbed a bank" theory, we are talking straight on indisputable evidence here...

I say 55 gal drum drilled out with holes and into the ocean for them, lets let CNN film that and after a few of those offloads I bet these freaks will think twice before stepping ahead to violate another innocent victim..

I know, I know...let's agree to disagree...

BENZ-LGB · #39 03-02-2007, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Carlton

It was the "Wait 'till you get raped" comment that confused me............

...........like their was prior knowledge of the event before it occurs..........

You must be a mentalist if you can infer one from the other.

I'm not, however, interested in parsing sentences with you.

Brian Carlton · #40 03-02-2007, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BENZ-LGB

You must be a mentalist if you can infer one from the other.

I'm not, however, interested in parsing sentences with you.

Yes, the Botanist accuses me of that all the time..............

aklim · #41 03-02-2007, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BENZ-LGB

Wait 'till you get raped.

You will be singing a different tune...maybe on a higher key!

I don't follow. All I was saying is that if I go rape a girl right now, the most I can get in any state is prison. It is not a death sentence crime in any state, is it?

BENZ-LGB · #42 03-03-2007, 12:24 AM

This is what NATE wrote:

If he's found guilty, then punishment should be death.
Same with all crimes of this type, and murder...

This is what you replied:

Why? You don't hang a man for rape.

Nate's comment appeared to suggest that the punishment for rapes should be changed to include death.

Your response appeared to indicate that believe that a man should not hang for committing a rape.

My response was that when a person becomes a victim of rape he/she changes his/her tune about punishment.

mgburg · #43 03-03-2007, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by aklim

...All I was saying is that if I go rape a girl right now, the most I can get in any state is prison. It is not a death sentence crime in any state, is it?

The death penalty (DP) would be asked for in addition to the original charge of rape if the victim suffered severe or terminal injuries during/following the commission of the rape.

Stacking charges, right Benz-LGB?

And I still believe that the DP is not to be considered a deterent. IT IS WHAT IT IS...A PENALTY.

Go through a stop sign without stopping? Ticket, fine and points. Right?

Go through a stop sign without stopping? Cause an accident? Ticket(s), fine(s) and POINTS.

Go through a stop sign without stopping? Cause an accident with injuries and/or death? The tickets, fines and points will be the least of your problems then. Your wallet don't know the pain it will be in, let alone you...and the circumstances of you going through that stop sign will be the major factor in how the crash will be prosecuted.

And God help you if the victim was a kid, cute chick or some likeable body. The ugly, old and wretched will get some sympathy, but for the most part, you'll be the one, ending up rotting in insurance hell, at the least, even if you have the best of lawyers.

I digressed. Sorry 'bout that.

For the most part, a rape, in itself, probably isn't a DP offense. It's just that the victim, friends and family want the DP applied.

But again, if the victim dies, then, depending on the state, you "fry" or "lie in waste" for the rest of your life.

It all comes back to the victims' level of hurt.
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aklim · #44 03-03-2007, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BENZ-LGB

This is what NATE wrote:

If he's found guilty, then punishment should be death.
Same with all crimes of this type, and murder...

This is what you replied:

Why? You don't hang a man for rape.

Nate's comment appeared to suggest that the punishment for rapes should be changed to include death.

Your response appeared to indicate that believe that a man should not hang for committing a rape.

My response was that when a person becomes a victim of rape he/she changes his/her tune about punishment.

OK. Guess I misread.

Well, for murder, they took a life or more so we take their's. Now, in rape, they didn't kill anyone (assuming it is simply rape), so how can we justify termination?

aklim · #45 03-03-2007, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by mgburg

The death penalty (DP) would be asked for in addition to the original charge of rape if the victim suffered severe or terminal injuries during/following the commission of the rape.

Well, yes, that would be a different story. If the victim suffered terminal injury, I could see asking for the DP. But, as I was saying, if it was just a guy raping a woman and releasing her, it would be difficult to justify. Now, if he released her in the middle of winter, naked and in the middle of nowheres and she died, that would be something else.