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Old 03-06-2007, 11:03 PM
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Purity Balls

ABC News had a story tonight about Purity Balls. They are like a prom or wedding reception to which a father takes his young daughter (12 yrs old or so). The daughter then pledges to the father that she will not have sex with anyone until she marries. One even pledged never to kiss a boy before marriage.
Did anyone else see the story and get a real creepy feeling when watching it as if there is some really sick underlying psychology involved?

I found this piece:

http://www.salon.com/mwt/broadsheet/2006/05/03/purity_balls/index.html

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Old 03-06-2007, 11:08 PM
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Old 03-06-2007, 11:14 PM
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i guess it might be a good idea....

but of course it won't work in most cases.

when the kids fall in love they just naturally want to do things.

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Old 03-06-2007, 11:17 PM
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Ok, I did and read about it. I'm not in favor of sexual abstinence but a girl making the pledge to her father as if the father has some special claim on her sexuality seems to hint at a the psychic roots of the idea that women are property. One wonders if the logical extension of the practice is honor killings.
I don't think it would creep me out so much if it was a mother/daughter event.
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Old 03-06-2007, 11:23 PM
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Yeah they're called mormons(sp?) might have an extra M, same thing.
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I think you mean that you are in favor of abstinence for children, and will take the comment as such.

I see your point here. If she has to pledge to a man, she can easily change her allegiance from her father to anyone else. And it would seem likely that she may cling to another controlling personality, which easily leads to abuse.
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Old 03-06-2007, 11:26 PM
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Yeah they're called mormons(sp?) might have an extra M, same thing.
This is not restricted to near-fringe movements like the Mormons. In fact, there is a large enough faction who want us to believe that it's "the way things ought to be."
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Old 03-06-2007, 11:30 PM
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I think you mean that you are in favor of abstinence for children, and will take the comment as such.

I see your point here. If she has to pledge to a man, she can easily change her allegiance from her father to anyone else. And it would seem likely that she may cling to another controlling personality, which easily leads to abuse.
I can see that side of it. But the other side is that it creates some basic sexual dependency between daughter and father that can't be broken. She then marries her father, or as a substitute, only a male that her father approves of.

I meant that I'm not in favor of abstinence until marriage.
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Old 03-06-2007, 11:32 PM
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i didn't read the link.

the thing about pledging to dad is a little wierd. more appropriate to pledge to herself.

women as property opens a whole big bag of worms. as a man with four daughters, six sisters and three granddaughters (and at least one on the way). i am a women's rights man.

equal opportunity for all regardless of race, creed, color or sex.

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ABC News had a story tonight about Purity Balls. They are like a prom or wedding reception to which a father takes his young daughter (12 yrs old or so). The daughter then pledges to the father that she will not have sex with anyone until she marries. One even pledged never to kiss a boy before marriage.
Did anyone else see the story and get a real creepy feeling when watching it as if there is some really sick underlying psychology involved?

I found this piece:

http://www.salon.com/mwt/broadsheet/2006/05/03/purity_balls/index.html
I have daughters and the show totally creeped me out.

I think that abstinence for young people, especially in this age of STDs, is a laudable goal. But these people are just a bit too creepy for my liking.

What about the boys?

Do they pledge virginity to their moms?

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What about the boys?
Do they pledge virginity to their moms?
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I can see it now... the girls on one side of the room making fun of "who's still a virgin", and the fathers on the other side boasting that they "are Artemis' equal in hunting" and ogling each others daughters.
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I know a girl who always had a chip on her shoulder 'cause she was going to wait until marriage to have sex because it's sacred or whatever.

Turns out she had had/participated in oral and anal sex... (yes, she told me)all I could do was roll my eyes.
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I recently saw this documentary on the practice of infibulation in Sudan and some 35 other countries in the world: the principle is very similar I'd say.
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Old 03-07-2007, 04:15 AM
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From Esquire's "Dubious Achievement Awards" (2006)

Paris Hilton delcared that she was starting a year of sexual abstinence, saying, "I like the way guys go crazy when you say they can't have sex with you. If he can't have you, he stays interested. The moment he has you, he's gone."

Then she laughed so hard, semen shot out of her nose


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