I was looking for 0-60 times for my 400e (to put in the ebay listing when I sell it) and came across this :

http://www.albeedigital.com/supercoupe/articles/0-60times.html

Well, I noticed my 400e times were 7.68 (0-60) and 15.8 for the 1/4, while the 240D times are 19.7 and 21.4
what a riot. twenty seconds to get up to 60 mph,,, can you peddle any faster,,,

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I have driven both models listed above, and to me, it would be like comparing apples and oranges.

Both are 4 door Mercedes sedans, with all that draws us to them, but that's where it ends.

The 400 is a balls to the wall, zingy, exquisitely balanced, 80% of a 500E, that will burn gas, and it's a SPORT sedan experience.

The Diesel, gives the diesel experience, it is slower and returns a leisurely ride, with a manual gearshift if you are lucky, and with the anvil like durability and longevity and simplicity of repair on a vehicle that is expected to last to star trek mileages as a matter of course, and the possiblility of using alternative fuel too.

Each a Mercedes, but each on a mission with an entirely different way of carrying it out, and with a different motoring experience.

Imagine the lucky individual who could have BOTH in his garage, to select from, that would be nice.

Just my two pfennigs.

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1991 560 SEC AMG, 199k <---- 300 hp 10:1 ECE euro HV ...

1995 E 420, 170k "The Red Plum" (sold)

2015 BMW 535i xdrive awd Stage 1 DINAN, 6k, <----364 hp

1967 Mercury Cougar, 49k

2013 Jaguar XF, 20k <----340 hp Supercharged, All Wheel Drive (sold)

and that was with the 4 spd. Imagine the automatic's times...

W123 300D Turbodiesel 0-60 : eventually

Y que? So what? Most buyers will - or should - know would know exactly what theyr're getting when they buy a 240D, and it's NOT blistering speed.

They'd laugh knowlingly at the Car and Driver description (actually of the '82 300SD) that said it "clacks like a basket of castanets and crawls on its hands and knees to 60 mph"

Those 240Diesels, the W123, especially, have such a timeless eternal elegance, all the essential goodness of the best of everything a Mercedes ever was, each one assembled by craftsmen who cared about what they were doing, in Germany when the Mercedes reputation for prestige, quality, longevity, durability and goodness was at its zenith.

They were the least expensive Mercedes in the lineup, but built to the same standard of the 6.9 liter flagship sedans.

Those diesels were VERY expensive when they were new, but, as one reviewer of the W123 said in a 1977 road test, what too, was the value of an original Chippendale highboy, or a flawless 3.5 carat diamond?

Their value was simply reflected in what people would be willing to pay for them, and many many intelligent and aware individuals proved willing to step up and pay for a new 240 Diesel.

They have withstood the test of time.

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1991 560 SEC AMG, 199k <---- 300 hp 10:1 ECE euro HV ...

1995 E 420, 170k "The Red Plum" (sold)

2015 BMW 535i xdrive awd Stage 1 DINAN, 6k, <----364 hp

1967 Mercury Cougar, 49k

2013 Jaguar XF, 20k <----340 hp Supercharged, All Wheel Drive (sold)

More like 12 seconds. Keep in mind cars were a lot slower in the 80s.

And now look up the spec of an E55 AMG. I think I read 9 some seconds to 100 mph!

6.9s nowadays aren't very special power wise either unfortunately... a modern mustang V6 will outrun it.

There must be a way to make really great power out of the 6.9 motor you would think though.

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1985 CA 300D Turbo , 213K mi

Couldn't have said it better myself, Jim. That was definitely the appeal of my TD to me. For me, I'm just more relaxed and in less of a hurry when I'm in it. Sure, some would say it's because I don't really have a choice. But mainly it's just my state of mind whenever I drive it.

As is evident from my stable of vehicles, speed isn't that important to me anyway. At one time it was and my vehicles were more reflective of that. Heck, with 4 kids the longer it takes me to get my solo running around done the better

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1980 300TD-China Blue/Blue MBTex-2nd Owner, 107K (Alt Blau) OBK #15
'06 Chevy Tahoe Z71 (for the wife & 4 kids, current mule) '03 Honda Odyssey (son #1's ride, reluctantly) '99 GMC Suburban (255K+ miles, semi-retired mule) 21' SeaRay Seville (summer escape pod)

lol...

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2007 E550 4Matic - 61,000 Km - Iridium Silver, black leather, Sport package, Premium 2 package
2007 GL450 4Matic - 62,000 Km - Obsidian Black Metallic, black leather, all options
1998 E430 - sold
1989 300E - 333,000 Km - sold
1977 280E - sold
1971 250 - retired

"And a frign hat. They gave me a hat at the annual benefits meeting. I said. how does this benefit me. I dont have anything from the company.. So they gave me a hat." - TheDon

They are fast enough to keep up with traffic.

Thats why you need a later generation diesel, the later ones are faster.

My friends chipped E300D could probably take that 400E, it would be a very close race.

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1999 SL500
1969 280SE
2023 Ram 1500
2007 Tiara 3200

I'm not so sure mine will even go 60.

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1980 300D - Veggie Burner !

My '83 300D is VERY slow until the engine is fully warmed up. Then it runs pretty good (for 392K miles). My '76 300D is fairly decent off the line, but runs out of breath fairly quickly. Daughter's '87 300D is bloody fast. That's not too surprising since it has the same 603 motor as my '86 SDL. The SDL is quick enough for me. Of course, if I really feel the need for speed, just borrow the wife's car: '88 560SL. It's a nice docile car around town. However, go fat on the loud pedal and all hell breaks loose (with grins so hard ya wear out your teeth!). Friend has a '79 240D stick that seems quick enough. My old '76 240D stick was plenty fast for city and highway. Of course, I think it was about 500 lbs lighter than when it came from the factory-think rust. I just hate to see the 240 motor tied to a slush pump. Ya lose to much heating the t-fluid. I think a manual shift 240D (115 or 123) is just about the perfect basic car.

New Audi R8- 0-60, 4.3 seconds. HANG ON!!!!!!!

http://www.caranddriver.com/autoshows/11640/2008-audi-r8.html

My SDL will run 0-60 in 10.5 seconds confirmed via many G Tech runs. Nothing fancy either, just kill the AC and floor it, that way I can repeat the numbers to assure they are accurite.

Not bad for a 20 year old engine that is pretty much all stock. According to Mercedes it should take another second or so to reach 60.

With an intercooler I beleive I could knock a solid 2-3 seconds off that time, one day I may get around to installing one.

Fast no, respectable for a 20 year old diesel, yes.

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1999 SL500
1969 280SE
2023 Ram 1500
2007 Tiara 3200

An S600 can go 0-60 in uder 4 seconds in the right conditions...

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-Justin

91 560 SEC AMG - other dogs dd
01 Honda S2000 - dogs dd
07 MB ML320 CDI - dd
16 Lexus IS250 - wifes dd

it's automatic.

True, a 6.9 is burdened by the 3 speed automatic, tall gearing and a LOT of weight but it's like a Bentley. It's not when you get there it's about how you get there.

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1974 240D 3.0L 4(M) - 250K -OM617.910 + 300D FW + Rajay turbo power!
1977 6.9 3(A) - 84k