This girl has an amazing sense of humor and is just a riot to be around. She seems to be honest unlike the last giral that I had been dating. My problem is that I find that I'm really good at getting the girl to go out for the evening or what not, but I have a hard time going on from there. I mean I go on other dates but things don't always progress. I think this is the the girl but I really need some great date ideas, and great things to say. I'm 22 and she is 25. If this helps she loves the outdoors, biking, running, hiking, dancing etc etc. She is also a find judge of fine wines and generally a very classly lady. She has said that she enjoys being treated like a lady which again is sadly rare these days. Finally, she is georgous and has one of the best senses of humor of any girl that I have met in a long while or ever.

Is this the chick who likes BMW's or am I thinking of someone else?

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She obviously finds you worth the effort, or you wouldn't have gotten beyond one outing with her.

I think it's too early to worry about taking things to the next level. Women have a knack at doing this anyway, so you my get to sit back.

Honesty is best. If you don't know how to go about this, then TELL HER. Women are MORE than willing to accomodate.

If you can't communicate now, you are is deep doo-doo in the relationship-nuturing department. Communication is paramount to sustaining one.

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"I think this is the the girl but I really need some great date ideas, and great things to say."

The last 4 words are the problem. You want someone to tell you what to say! This is kind of like the movie scenes where the guy is wired and someone is telling him what to say next. It doesn't work that way. You will be found out in the 3 rd sentence. You have to be yourself.

She is into fine wines. Do you know anything about wine? If you do then fine you have a common area of interest. If not, then it's best to just be honest about it. Women know when they are being pursued by phony talk. This is the time to learn a different approach.

In sales a powerful technique is the open ended question. I'm sure you can find more by googling that term. Goes something like this. She says, " I am really into Fine Wines".
You say, "Really? Tell me how you got interested". "She says something else. You come up with another question that plays off her previous statement. When you get really good at it, you can have a conversation where the other person does most of the talking and you listen. Women talk about two or three times as much as men. So this techique fits their tendencies. Watch overdoing it.

Also women often are put off by guys following them around like a puppy. In other words, you may have to act somewhat dis-interested to make them interested in you.

Steve

I suck lately with the ladies, but here is my advice.

Get a few bottles of good wine, get her trashed then bang the heck out of her. What could go wrong?

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Good points...but lets clarify "disinterested".

All women like having someone interested in them. Just not "stalking". But you have dated others, so we'll assume for now that you are comfortable around women, and don't appear desperate.

What you don't want to be is perpetually available...you had other life interests before you met her, so don't abandon them for the new love interest. Continue doing as you have, and if you made other plans, keep them. She has a life as well, and will probably not include you in those aspects either...it's this way in a marriage too.

It's not important that you don't come off as "wordly" or "all-knowing". Someone like that is actually kinda intimidating. Show interest in wines (as Steve put it), and she will be more than happy to enlighten you. Besides, if this encounter doesn't work, you've at least learned a new skill that you can take to the next relationship.

A lot of what I use to woo my wife were skills I acquired from past girlfriends...(NO NOT THOSE!!!)

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Tell her what you are thinking. If she wants to play games she is not the woman that you think she is. Trust her, if you don't trust her to tell her this ...

Just enjoy life and enjoy being with her. If you start loading things up with too many expectations too early, it usually doesn't go well. You're both plenty young enough to focus on the moment and go wherever it takes you.

That's what I tell my son all the time.

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In sales a powerful technique is the open ended question. I'm sure you can find more by googling that term. Goes something like this. She says, " I am really into Fine Wines".
You say, "Really? Tell me how you got interested". "She says something else. You come up with another question that plays off her previous statement. When you get really good at it, you can have a conversation where the other person does most of the talking and you listen.

When I was in sales, we used to play around with the newbies. It would go something like this:
" In a conversation, the one asking the question is the one who is in control, do you understand this?"
The response was usually, " Yes"
Then we'd repeat,. " No. I don't think you do. Don't you see how asking questions gives you the ability to direct the conversation?"
response, " OK"
and so it would go until the newbie finally realises that the point to this game is to respond with a question. " Yes, I understand how that gives me power. Can you explain to me how to use that in a sales situation?" or something similar. Then we knew they understood.
The open ended question, use it. It also makes you aware of when someone is trying it on you, doesn't it?

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1) You really need to learn about her, so I'd suggest hanging out near her house at night with a set of binoculars. Study her, follow her, and learn who she is what she likes. Then become that person you think she'll like!

2) Get her drunk and bang the heck out of her.

3) Just start hanging out with her, be honest, and keep the pace moving forward. When you know that she likes you, it's okay to say you like her. Don't use the word "love you" any time soon. Relax, have fun, get to know her - maybe it works out, maybe it doesn't.

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- Brian


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Whatever you do, avoid option 3 at all costs!

As far as great things to say, don't worry about it. You don't need a script, just be yourself. Clearly that has worked so far, or she wouldn't be interested in you.

I too found myself in a similar situation recently with my now current girlfriend, but we sat down and talked for some time and I found out she was more worried about what I thought about her than what I thought she thought of me. Once we both realized we could be ourselves around each other (because thats really what each of us was interested in) things are going great now! best of luck to ya

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Being yourself? Really? That's a novel approach. Has anybody else tried this technique?

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