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Old 05-06-2007, 05:31 PM
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Just picked up a old very very odd socket set

Just picked up a old very very odd socket set
came with a wood dovetailed box so it must be old

crome winder style driver 1/2'' insert driver
a very odd looking driver [kinda like a pepper mill]
with 8 big exposed ratcheting teeth [double set to reverce]
uses a ring to slide up and down to change ratchet direction
fold out handel to turn it about 10'' long/high
sheet steel formed sockets in 1/32 sized to over 1''
decal on box said AUTO CL5 SOCKET WRENCH SET
MADE BY FRANK MOxxxxx CO [maybe morris]
made in USA

M in a diamond logo

xxx are unreadable letters on old worn decal
any ideas on who or where or when
and value????
looks to be a very very early socket set

anyone else into old tools
lots of woodworking stuff on the net
but little on older auto repair tools
or metal working of any kind

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Old 05-06-2007, 07:33 PM
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Found It

FOUND IT
patented in 1903 and replaced in production in 1912 with more modern design

link to patent #751055

http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPAT751055
drawing
http://www.google.com/patents?id=vrksAAAAEBAJ&pg=PP1

up dated patent

Patent number: RE12379
Filing date: Apr 15, 1905
Issue date: Aug 15, 1905
Inventor: CAMILLE CONTAL

http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPATRE12379
drawing
http://www.google.com/patents?id=xTMiAAAAEBAJ&pg=PA24

"Auto-Cle" from the Quincy, Manchester, Sargent Company

751,055 81/58.3 C. Contal [Used for AUTO-CLE sets] 10/15/1903 02/02/1904 Ratchet wrench set

Sargent Co bought by Frank Mossberg in 1908 , he was a notable inventor and businessman in Attleboro, Massachusetts, and owner of Frank Mossberg Co the maker of my tool set

in 1912 Frank Mossberg patented a more modern ratchet and sometime afterwards droped production of my tool set date it to about 1910 + or - a few years

link to mossberg co history

http://home.comcast.net/~alloy-arti...ml#mossberg-350

GOT TO LOVE THE INTERNET FOR THIS KIND OF INFO

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Old 05-06-2007, 07:53 PM
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Those antique knuckle busters are fascinating. I don't collect old tools-other than those I use, some are 50 years old and I bought them new- but I have a few interesting pieces that were given to me.
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Old 05-08-2007, 08:56 AM
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