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Old 05-08-2007, 12:49 AM
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New Provisional License Restriction?

What do you think? This may become law here.

For their first six months of holding a license, those under the age of 18 could not drive between midnight and 5 a.m. except for work or school or if accompanied by a licensed driver at least 25 years old. Also for the first six months, the driver could not carry more than one nonrelative under 20; for the next six months, no more than three of them.

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Old 05-08-2007, 12:58 AM
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Lame.. Theres similar laws here, everyone I know ignores them... including me
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Old 05-08-2007, 01:00 AM
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What is it trying to solve? Anyone have any idea?
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Old 05-08-2007, 01:01 AM
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With the price of gas ... what's the difference if the kid is driving or not? He needs an after-school job just to be able to afford the gas to just start the car, let alone drive it.

MO? Good rules.

Most kids are "cranked out" of Drivers' Ed. and don't have even a clue as what they're doing out there.

Slow down the "life" just a little bit and let them get some "road" under their butts before letting them go nuts.

There might be a lot less funerals this summer and more folks at the 5th/10th reunions.

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Old 05-08-2007, 01:20 AM
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They been doing that in CA for a lot of years.
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Old 05-08-2007, 02:26 AM
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Whats wrong with it? Seems a fair law to me.

Would you prefer it be between 10pm and 6am?
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Old 05-08-2007, 02:48 AM
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WA has this law as well. For drivers under 18, the first six months has similar restrictions:

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If you are under 18, you will be issued an intermediate driver license and must follow these special rules:

* For the first 6 months, you cannot drive with passengers under the age of 20 unless they are members of your immediate family (such as a spouse, child, stepchild, siblings, both by birth and marriage).
* For the next 6 months you may not carry more than 3 passengers who are under 20 years old who are not members of your immediate family.
* For the first 12 months, you cannot drive between 1 a.m. and 5 a.m. unless you are with a licensed driver age 25 or older. The only exception to this rule is if you drive for agricultural purposes, meaning you transport farm products or supplies under the direction of a farmer (See RCW 46.20.070).

After 1 year of following these rules and driving without a collision or traffic citation, you can drive without limitations on the time of day or the age and number of your passengers.

When you turn 18, these special rules no longer apply and your intermediate driver license automatically becomes a regular license.
In addition, before the license is granted, a new driver under 18 must have had an instruction permit for at least 6 months and have driven a minimum of 50 hours, 10 of which being at night.
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Old 05-08-2007, 08:53 AM
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But what is the law trying to adress?
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Old 05-08-2007, 09:33 AM
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they should ban em from using their cell phones too!!
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Old 05-08-2007, 09:55 AM
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But what is the law trying to adress?
The law recognizes that peer pressure and distraction within the vehicle is a significant cause of inattention by the young driver.

If the peers are not inside the vehicle, the task of actually driving the vehicle might be attended to in a proper fashion.
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Old 05-08-2007, 10:08 AM
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What is it trying to solve? Anyone have any idea?
Statistics show that young, and inexperienced drivers tend to get into more accidents when:

1. they are driving around with their friends in the car; and

2. they are driving late at night.

The reason for #1, above is that other young passengers int he car tend to distract the driver. Also, young drivers do stupid things, like speed up or take unnecessary risks, to impress their peers.

The reason for #2 is that it has been shown that tired drivers are dangerous. Tired and inexperienced drivers are evenmore dangerous. Also, a lot of the street races that result in injury and death occur at night.

In spain, the drinking age is 16 and the driving age is 18. I think that makes a lot more sense than our drinking age of 21 and driving age of 15.5.

I have gone through 3 teenage drivers and one soon to be a teenage driver, and I can tell you that as good as my kids are ( ) their level of maturity at 16 is not very comforting.

And it is not just them, when I was 16 I was a stupid jerk behind the wheel of my big Super Delta 88 Olds.
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Old 05-08-2007, 10:12 AM
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Makes more sense now. In that case I wonder if six months is enough?!?

With parenting there's a continuum where you give them zero freedom at zero years to quite a bit of freedom at age 18. I suppose DL's should be no different.
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Old 05-08-2007, 10:45 AM
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Makes more sense now. In that case I wonder if six months is enough?!?

With parenting there's a continuum where you give them zero freedom at zero years to quite a bit of freedom at age 18. I suppose DL's should be no different.
I think we have a similar law here that was enacted after a string of accidents that killed several teenagers.

One of them was near my old house where a group of four girls launched a boyfriends Jag XJS 12cyl off a steep hill @ +120 mph and smacked a tree killing all four girls. That was followed by a Ford Taurus and three girls that did not yield for an oak tree @ 100 mph killing two of the girls (sisters) and the driver walked away. Another happend a month latter that killed a would be brain surgeon when he crashed his Lotus graduation present into a tree. It shook my little community up big time.

When my daughter gets to HS age there is no way in hell I will let her ride with other children, its a shame that all of the love and devotion is trashed by a stupid kid showing off if laws like that save one teenagers life its worth it.
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Back when I was in college, 8 teenaged kids piled into a Chrysler Cordoba after a party and drove down a winding suburban road at high speed. The driver lost control of the car and ran it up one of those steel guide wires that you sometimes see supporting wooden utility poles. The car spiraled in the air and landed squarely on its roof at the bottom of a ravine. I saw the car a few days later; not only was the roof completely flattened, but the upper third of the body was also compressed. Eight teenage funerals in a small town was an event that few locals will ever forget.

I support the law in question. Now, if I was 16, my perspective would be different, but not necessarily in my best interests.
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Old 05-08-2007, 11:13 AM
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I support the law in question. Now, if I was 16, my perspective would be different, but not necessarily in my best interests.
I'm sure the 16-year old members here vehemently oppose this law!

But I certainly understand and support what it is trying to accomplish! In three years, I will have to face that awful decision of handing the keys of a powerful 2-ton machine over to a flighty 16-yr old!

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