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Old 09-04-2007, 10:36 PM
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Talking Dumb Ebay seller, you HAVE to see this!

First auction:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270132264843

Now here is the second auction, in which the buyer from the first resold it!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260145824374


Now that is one STUPID seller! How the **** can you screw up that badly?

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Old 09-04-2007, 10:46 PM
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Guy got his clock cleaned. IF he HAD one.


Nothing like a fast $500,000 profit. IF you get paid.

Sounds like a better racket than real estate.

The Belcher foundation. Priceless.
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Old 09-04-2007, 10:50 PM
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He must have gotten paid. His feedback is clean, he would have neg'd the high bidder if he was a deadbeat. Maybe they took it off ebay to avoid the fee's?

I wonder what the ebay fee's on that are going to be?

I'd work something out with the winner to avoid that. Maybe neg it and claim he never paid, so ebay doesn't get a cut. Then sell it behind there backs.
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Old 09-04-2007, 11:09 PM
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Old 09-04-2007, 11:13 PM
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I wonder what the ebay fee's on that are going to be?
I think the final value fee would be $7567.50.

It's 5.25% of the initial $25.00 ($1.31), plus 3.25% of the initial $25.01 - $1,000.00 ($31.69), plus 1.50% of the remaining closing value balance ($1000.01 - closing value).

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I'd work something out with the winner to avoid that. Maybe neg it and claim he never paid, so ebay doesn't get a cut. Then sell it behind there backs.
If eBay helps me sell something (even if it's a half million dollar item), then they're welcome to their cut!
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Old 09-04-2007, 11:14 PM
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Wow. If it all went down as it appears to have. I’d say Dan is still giggling his a—off. And poor Pete committed suicide the morning of August 13.

What I find odd though, is the fact that neither seems to have really known what they had/bought/sold. If the darned thing is actually worth 500K - Pete let it go for 300ish with a 299 starting bid. And Dan looks to have (unless I’m missing something) started it off at 1.00 with no reserve. What if all the bidders that ran it to half a million, didn’t see it when Dan auctioned it? Just like they didn’t when Pete put it up. Odd, that. And the auction titles really aren’t that far off. Like nobody goes looking for that stuff in June, but they do in August. (??)

Also – I’m not really sure what it actually sold for. There seems to be quite a listing of bid retractions and cancellations on Dan’s auction. Check that out.

Either way. Pretty neat to see. Thanks.

Kind of reminds me of how PBS’s Antiques Road Show put a slam on the common residential garage sale back when it first aired. Everybody was suddenly looking for the treasure, and not buying the common items, regardless of the bargain.
Sure looks like Dan found one!!
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that is a total scam look at the bidding history almost every one of them has 2 or 3 ***.now if that was a 150 year old bottle of schlitz i could believe those prices.
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Old 09-04-2007, 11:18 PM
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that is a total scam look at the bidding history almost every one of them has 2 or 3 ***.now if that was a 150 year old bottle of schlitz i could believe those prices.
The 2 or 3 ***, is a new eBay thing.
It’s to protect big spenders by not showing their actual IDs.

But check out the bid retractions and cancellations at the bottom of that history. Someone else can do the backward math. It's past my "think time".
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Old 09-04-2007, 11:24 PM
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I see that petere92346 got positively glowing feedback from collectordan for the first transaction:

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STELLAR bottle! Rarest bottle ever sold on E-Bay...BAR NONE! EXC SELLER! EXC!!!
It's clear just from looking at the nature/price of the items viewable through feedback left for them that Dan moves in somewhat more rarified eBay circles than Pete. It surprises me, in fact, that he would buy items in his specialty under the same username that he uses to sell them. Most eBay sellers of specialized stuff use separate IDs for buying.
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Old 09-04-2007, 11:39 PM
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The 2 or 3 ***, is a new eBay thing.
It’s to protect big spenders by not showing their actual IDs.
Bingo. It's a fairly recent change to the way eBay "anonymizes" things; for a while it was "Bidder 1", "Bidder 2", etc. It kicks in at $200.

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New User ID Masking - We are replacing the current aliases (Bidder 1, Bidder 2 and Bidder 3) with a masked ID that consists of two random characters from the member's User ID – for example a***b. For any given member, this masked ID will be consistent across all auctions over $200 for which they place bids. At the end of a listing, the winning bidder's User ID will be displayed on both the item and bid history page. Please note: Sellers will still be able to view the actual User IDs for bidders on their listings through the Bid History page.
Also, please understand that to protect our Community, eBay reserves the right to change this masking algorithm in the future, but will only do so if absolutely necessary and with advance notice. We expect to add more enhancements in the future, although our intent is to move cautiously so we can ensure we’re preserving safety.
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Old 09-04-2007, 11:52 PM
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What I find odd though, is the fact that neither seems to have really known what they had/bought/sold. If the darned thing is actually worth 500K - Pete let it go for 300ish with a 299 starting bid. And Dan looks to have (unless I’m missing something) started it off at 1.00 with no reserve.
On the bid history page for the second auction, it states, "Reserve met", so I think Dan did have a reserve on it. Whether it was "annihilated" rather than simply "met" is not apparent to us now!
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I'll admit, I haven't seen a lot of the rest of Ebay recently, I've been too busy watching this auction:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320152856422#description

I can't help but wonder how it will all go...

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It seems a little fishy. All that buyer ever bought before was records. I doubt he payed. I don't see any evidence of it. It has been 3 weeks and there is no feedback on either side. I have had people deadbeat bid on .99 !

The price seems a little high. I could believe the bids under 100K might be legitimate. I do remember that item. The seller paid to have it shown on the ebay homepage. I don't know the fee for that but obviously worth it for this kind of item. I wonder how the seller found the original listing. It is obvious the original seller did not take much care in his listing. He misspelled Allsopps and his photo of the tag is a blur shot which is often evidence of a fake.

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Old 09-05-2007, 12:07 AM
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I'll admit, I haven't seen a lot of the rest of Ebay recently, I've been too busy watching this auction:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320152856422#description

I can't help but wonder how it will all go...

MV
Wow, that's hard to believe too, but a lot of work for 300.00. Maybe I am the original skeptic.

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Old 09-05-2007, 12:09 AM
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Note that Dan also picked up another bottle of Arctic Ale - this time from the 1875 Arctic Expedition:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Allsopps-Arctic-Ale-1875-full-and-sealed-132-yrs-old_W0QQitemZ320148850692QQihZ011QQcategoryZ563QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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