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Old 10-08-2007, 12:51 PM
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Sheriff's deputy in gun rampage

An off-duty sheriff's deputy shot dead his ex-girlfriend and five other people before being killed himself by a police sniper in the US state of Wisconsin. The shootings on Sunday have left the small town of Crandon, in the north of the Midwestern state, in shock.

The gunman, named as Tyler Peterson, 20, worked full-time as a deputy sheriff in Forest County. As well as his ex-girlfriend, he shot two childhood friends and a 14-year-old girl. His motive is not yet known. Police Chief John Dennee said Peterson, who also worked as a part-time police officer, was not on duty at the time of the shooting.

The incident occurred at his ex-girlfriend's house shortly before 0300 local time (0800 GMT), where the young people had gathered to watch movies and eat pizza, reports said. A seventh youth is said to be in critical condition in hospital.

Tight-knit community

Residents of Crandon, a community of 2,000 about 225 miles (360 kilometres) north of Milwaukee, were ordered to stay in their homes while police hunted for Peterson. At about 3pm local time he was "brought down by a sniper", Crandon Mayor Gary Bradley said.


The young people had gathered at a house to watch late-night movies
Three of the victims were Crandon High School students, said schools Superintendent Richard Peters, and the other three had graduated within the past three years.

"There is probably nobody in Crandon who is not affected by this," Mr Peters said, adding that students would be especially affected.

"They are going to wake up in shock and disbelief and a lot of pain."

Jenny Stahl, whose 14-year-old daughter Lindsay was the youngest victim, said she had thought the teenager would be safer staying at a friend's house than travelling home late at night.

"I'm waiting for somebody to wake me up right now. This is a bad, bad dream," Mrs Stahl said.

Bud Evans, an elder at Crandon Praise Chapel, told BBC News 24 that worried relatives had gathered at the church as they waited for news.

"If there's five or six children or kids, young adults, whatever, involved in this, I'd know every one of them - the community's that small and that tight-knit," Mr Evans said.

The incident comes only six months after the Virginia Tech campus shooting, in which more than 30 people were killed.

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Old 10-08-2007, 01:26 PM
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Would this young man's tendancy for a brutal rampage been something that could have been detected on a police psychological test during the hiring process? What department did the sniper work for? My heart goes out to the families and this community.
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Old 10-08-2007, 02:59 PM
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I'm sorry to hear that this took place. At 20 years old I would think there was something wrong with the individual. 3 am? That's an interesting hour for a shooting. I'm interesting in hearing more about this.

Would more gun control accomplish anything? If there was more control, how would it avert the situation? He was a full-time officer. Technically, there's no such thing as an off-duty cop.
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Old 10-08-2007, 08:45 PM
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Gun control? You mean using both hands to steady the gun, right?

What is it with those dad blamed "Petersons" anyhow? First this Scott peterson kills HIS wife and unborn child. Now, this fella kills his girl friend and some other folks. I say that all people named Peterson should have to be registered with the local constabulatory.
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Old 10-08-2007, 09:10 PM
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I think gun control refers to the fact that the perp is now behind bars.
That is true gun control.

Sad tale. Just like TV and the movies.
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Gun control? You mean using both hands to steady the gun, right?

What is it with those dad blamed "Petersons" anyhow? First this Scott peterson kills HIS wife and unborn child. Now, this fella kills his girl friend and some other folks. I say that all people named Peterson should have to be registered with the local constabulatory.
They could be hiding WMDs in the desert too.
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Old 10-08-2007, 10:31 PM
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I have my guns and I will keep my guns and Goddamn anyone who would take them away!

Fortunately the current laws facilitate this but I can see when it will be otherwise..........
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I have my guns and I will keep my guns and Goddamn anyone who would take them away!

Fortunately the current laws facilitate this but I can see when it will be otherwise..........
Yep...I agree...............
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I have my guns and I will keep my guns and Goddamn anyone who would take them away!

Fortunately the current laws facilitate this but I can see when it will be otherwise..........
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There is more to this. People don't just snap, something was going on.
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Old 10-09-2007, 05:29 AM
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Irrespective of how he did it, he still would have done it. To blame firearms is crass stupidity demonstrated by the likes of Mothers Against Reality and other silly little groups of morons.
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How does this mass murder affect the argument that only law enforcement should have weapons?

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Old 10-09-2007, 09:25 AM
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How does this mass murder affect the argument that only law enforcement should have weapons?

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Simply because those with a sociopathic or criminal bent will always know where to get guns.

Illustative of this contention is my own experience.When I was 16 and running a Junkyard I needed a gun...so a friend suggested the "L shaped room"a colored bar near the fairgrounds,corner of Depot & Fairgrounds Aves.

$150.00 got me a worn Beretta .22 which I only ever used to plink headlights and beer bottles,after 2 years I gave it to some strung-out parts stripper who later was arrested for stealing beer,of all things.

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