The ACD museum in Auburn is worth a visit. Very very nice restored art deco building and a lot of very nice cars. The Duesenbergs alone are worth the trip.

Tom W

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[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC]

..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

I believe President Franklin Roosevelt gifted the prewar Packard body dies to the communist dictator, Joseph Stalin, his wartime ally.

The pictures of the black Russian ZIL or ZIS limousines from the late 1940s and early 1950s I have seen, seem to back that idea up. I am pretty sure it is true.

http://www.svvs.org/1950_ZIS_110_Saloon.shtml

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1995 E 420, 170k "The Red Plum" (sold)

2015 BMW 535i xdrive awd Stage 1 DINAN, 6k, <----364 hp

1967 Mercury Cougar, 49k

2013 Jaguar XF, 20k <----340 hp Supercharged, All Wheel Drive (sold)

The Russian car looks very much like the Packard. In the pictures that I have seen that hood lines of the Russian cars do not look to have as sharp of a bend as the Packards. If this is so was it a requirement so that it 'did not look like a Packard' or did the Russians have steel and /or stamping problems that required and alteration to the tooling. I used to work in metal stamping and if you are going to make a sharp bend of that length you better have very good steel, good tooling, and a precision press.

My Packard 'itch' is getting really bad.

The Russians liked the studebaker six by six trucks that we sent them in ww2 so much that they copied them and kept making the copies up til the eighties iirc.

Tom W

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[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC]

..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

Tom,

That Art Deco building that houses the Museum is the original Auburn Factory Showroom and still has a goodly amount of the original detail items such as chandeliers and balusters as well as all of the marble. The building alone is definitely worth the visit, and then add the Auburns, Cords and Duesies and you have a really great attraction. Of course things really liven up during the annual ACD reunion over Labor Day weekend.

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I was thinking it was a Hudson, I doubt it went for $3500.

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Yes. Definately. Very nice building too,

Tom W

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[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC]

..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.