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Kuan 10-26-2007 11:37 AM

Kids with privelege. This is what they do.
 
There's this place called Burke Mountain Academy. Check it out here: http://www.burkemtnacademy.org/

This is what they do for example. They have a full support crew including chef and housekeeper. http://www.fasterskier.com/training4661.html

I tellya, I would have trouble sending my child here even if I could afford it. Then again, I might think about it if I could afford it. Expensive babysitting for teens if you ask me.

865sp300e 10-26-2007 11:53 AM

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-op-frank29jul29,0,462577.story?coll=la-news-comment-opinions
Richie Rich 101

More and more camps are teaching trust-fund kids to handle the wealth headed their way.

Kuan 10-26-2007 12:16 PM

It's only a matter of degree. Multi millionaires are to me as I am to the very poor. A few years back my wife had to go on this opinion survey thing and she had to visit some very poor neighborhoods. She was advised what to wear, and advised not to wear any jewelry or obvious signs of wealth. This included things like shoes and handbags. Bring a pad of paper and a pen, don't bring your laptop, etc. People notice these things.

I still can't see though my child indulging in what to me seems extreme luxury. I mean, I've catered some expensive events, but having a chef along with you is just crazy extravagance. Even pro sports teams would consider it a luxury.

John Doe 10-26-2007 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Kuan (Post 1657316)
Even pro sports teams would consider it a luxury.


Actually they wouldn't. I know (client) an athlete that has a full time chef for his mother that lives 1200mi away from his primary residence. He also has a full time chef at his house. Know another one that has a full time chef at a house at which he spends maybe 90 days a year. I have a friend that is a full time chef at a compound in St. Barts who has never met the owner in two full years (ala robin masters). There are some hunting camps down near where Bot lives that have more than one full time chef during the season, ect..., ect....

You can easily get a chef where I live for about $500/week if you can let them go by eight so they can pull a night gig three days a week. We also have a local place where a bunch of broke chefs got together and you can either order off a menu or call in and pick up a fully prepared meal to take home and heat up and make it look like you prepared (similar but different than take out because it....well, it just is)

Kuan 10-26-2007 12:32 PM

For the whole team? Private chefs are common, but even sports teams eat at the hotel. Cycling teams have chefs, but only because they need to eat on the road.

John Doe 10-26-2007 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Kuan (Post 1657329)
For the whole team? Private chefs are common, but even sports teams eat at the hotel. Cycling teams have chefs, but only because they need to eat on the road.

I have had dinner with the Saints at a training camp a few years ago and they had a private chef.

Kuan 10-26-2007 12:42 PM

A private chef, a team chef that travels with the team? Seriously. Where do they setup their kitchen? Never seen it happen.

John Doe 10-26-2007 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Kuan (Post 1657341)
A private chef, a team chef that travels with the team? Seriously. Where do they setup their kitchen? Never seen it happen.

They have trailer-kitchens. There was even a show on the Disco or FoodtV about a while back about chefs that travel with bands, production crews, ect...

I am a little suprised you have never heard about this--man I have friends that have trailer kitchens. All the NASCAR guys have private chefs with trailer kitchens. I went to Bristol TN this year (yeah, I said it) and had a pit pass and watched it in action.

Kuan 10-26-2007 12:57 PM

I've seen trailer kitchens, just never seen them used by professional athletic teams. Maybe I'm just old, but teams used to just make arrangements with the catering manager for their meals.

Mistress 10-26-2007 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by John Doe (Post 1657337)
I have had dinner with the Saints at a training camp a few years ago and they had a private chef.

So how was the food?

Kuan 10-26-2007 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mistress (Post 1657363)
So how was the food?

Probably heavenly.

jlomon 10-26-2007 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Kuan (Post 1657341)
A private chef, a team chef that travels with the team? Seriously. Where do they setup their kitchen? Never seen it happen.

This is especially common with the new focus on sports nutrition/specialty diets. The teams will want to ensure that the right food is available for their athletes when its needed. Not only that, but it is a way to keep the athletes positive and happy if they get the food they like prepared the way they want it. We're all the same that way, we all have our own "comfort foods" and we are particular about how we want them prepared.

I remember seeing a segment on the team chef for the Toronto Raptors NBA team a number of years ago. In their kitchen at the Skydome they had hired a chef who was particularly familiar with southern "soul food" style cooking as they had many basketball players from the south. Offering this style of cooking was a way to make them feel better in general, which makes for more productive athletes.

John Doe 10-26-2007 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Kuan (Post 1657361)
I've seen trailer kitchens, just never seen them used by professional athletic teams. Maybe I'm just old, but teams used to just make arrangements with the catering manager for their meals.

It is circumstantial. Most of the time off-season training camps are not in large cities. In my experience, the players don't stay at the same place. They rent private residences, extended stay suites, ect......In this situation when they break for lunch a chef on their staff prepares meals. In the large hotel you must have worked at where a team came in for an away game one time ten years ago, the team probably ate together in the ballroom utilizing the existing kitchen staff:D:P;)

John Doe 10-26-2007 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jlomon (Post 1657369)
In their kitchen at the Skydome they had hired a chef who was particularly familiar with southern "soul food" style cooking as they had many basketball players from the south.

Man, that was a nice way of putting that, Fuzzy Zoeller:D

Gotta keep them brothas in cornbread and collard greens right?:D

Carleton Hughes 10-26-2007 01:07 PM

Yep,pointless waste and extravagance.First sign of an impending social collapse.

Sit back and think of how many homeless veterans,or mentally ill this money could feed and clothe,nay,how much low income housing and job/substance abuse programs it could subsidise.

Sorry but ***** like this {to paraphrase Herr Goering}makes me reach for my gun.

Kuan 10-26-2007 01:07 PM

Yeah that's what happened. We just got handed a normal banquet sheet, special requests sheet, and they just sat down and ate. Trainers and all. There were like 150 of them, some guests travel with the team too. Menu went something like this:

Beef, beef, beef...

Botnst 10-26-2007 01:16 PM

What is the potential for sabotaging an athlete? I'm saying like, introducing trace amounts of steroids or opiates. Imagine you're a cyclist on the Tour de France and there's a team that is totally dominating your team's distant 2nd place. So your nephew spikes the food or water with a bit of growth hormone on say, day 15.....

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jlomon 10-26-2007 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by John Doe (Post 1657373)
Man, that was a nice way of putting that, Fuzzy Zoeller:D

Gotta keep them brothas in cornbread and collard greens right?:D

I hear ya, but the players they featured on the show absolutely loved it. They said it made them miss home a whole lot less, and it made enduring cold Toronto winters just a little bit easier. :D

raymr 10-26-2007 02:04 PM

I've always wondered at what point you don't have to wash your own dishes anymore.

John Doe 10-26-2007 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by raymr (Post 1657439)
I've always wondered at what point you don't have to wash your own dishes anymore.

At the point you start buying paper plates;)

G-Benz 10-26-2007 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by John Doe (Post 1657373)
Man, that was a nice way of putting that, Fuzzy Zoeller:D

Gotta keep them brothas in cornbread and collard greens right?:D

I saw nothing wrong with jlomon's depiction of the situation...

"Soul food" is just what it is...so is "country cookin", "cajun cookin" etc.

If I were an athlete and had the option of getting what I wanted, I would probably opt for "Louisiana-style" cuisine over "Tex Mex" (which I'm rather sick of these days)...

John Doe 10-26-2007 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by G-Benz (Post 1657490)
I saw nothing wrong with jlomon's depiction of the situation...

"Soul food" is just what it is...so is "country cookin", "cajun cookin" etc.

If I were an athlete and had the option of getting what I wanted, I would probably opt for "Louisiana-style" cuisine over "Tex Mex" (which I'm rather sick of these days)...


I meant no offense and hope there was none taken, G-Benz. My post (however poorly presented) was a reference to Fuzzy Zoeller's comments about Tiger Woods a few years back regarding the Augusta National serving cornbread and collards if Tiger won that year (which he did). W. F. Buckley did the same thing a few years before when he remarked when asked about Jesse Jackson's chances at becoming president, that "They won't be serving corbread and collard greens in the White House next year."

If you find the post offensive, please let me know and I will delete it and ask jlomon to delete the post where he quoted me.

Hatterasguy 10-26-2007 03:48 PM

I rather just eat out for every meal, its more fun.

jlomon 10-26-2007 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by John Doe (Post 1657509)
I meant no offense and hope there was none taken, G-Benz. My post (however poorly presented) was a reference to Fuzzy Zoeller's comments about Tiger Woods a few years back regarding the Augusta National serving cornbread and collards if Tiger won that year (which he did). W. F. Buckley did the same thing a few years before when he remarked when asked about Jesse Jackson's chances at becoming president, that "They won't be serving corbread and collard greens in the White House next year."

If you find the post offensive, please let me know and I will delete it and ask jlomon to delete the post where he quoted me.

Just so you know, I didn't take offense. I realized you were kidding with me.

I appreciate what you said, though, G-Benz and as JD said, if offense was taken I'm more than happy to delete the post where I quoted him.

G-Benz 10-26-2007 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by John Doe (Post 1657509)
I meant no offense and hope there was none taken, G-Benz. My post (however poorly presented) was a reference to Fuzzy Zoeller's comments about Tiger Woods a few years back regarding the Augusta National serving cornbread and collards if Tiger won that year (which he did). W. F. Buckley did the same thing a few years before when he remarked when asked about Jesse Jackson's chances at becoming president, that "They won't be serving corbread and collard greens in the White House next year."

If you find the post offensive, please let me know and I will delete it and ask jlomon to delete the post where he quoted me.

I remember Fuzzy's comments. When you mentioned it in the post, I presumed you were inferring that jlomon's post was racist, although I saw nothing wrong with his depiction of the situation.

I wasn't offended, I just thought that you might have thought his comments were, and I was just assuring you that they weren't.

Sometimes I'm not very good at recognizing tongue-in-cheek responses. No harm done. Thanks for explaining.

John Doe 10-26-2007 04:04 PM

We're all on the same page--thanks guys:)

David R. Smith 10-26-2007 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Carleton Hughes (Post 1657374)
Yep,pointless waste and extravagance.First sign of an impending social collapse.

Sit back and think of how many homeless veterans,or mentally ill this money could feed and clothe,nay,how much low income housing and job/substance abuse programs it could subsidise.

Sorry but ***** like this {to paraphrase Herr Goering}makes me reach for my gun.

It's the difference between old money and new money, because most all people with old money don't have any qualms with doing manual labor around the house and living as inconspicously(sp) as possible.

New money loves to show off, as if signing a lease for a luxury car and using plastic to buy a Hugo Boss suit or Prada handbag is going to really impress anyone.

A few miles away, a woman started a interesting business where she provides a kitchen and ingredients so tha the soccer moms can go and cook dinner and then take the prepared food back home. Presumably, this is so that they don't make a mess in the Viking/sub zero fridge/granite counter top kitchen that never gets used, except for the microwave.

Hatterasguy 10-27-2007 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by David R. Smith (Post 1657885)
It's the difference between old money and new money, because most all people with old money don't have any qualms with doing manual labor around the house and living as inconspicously(sp) as possible.

New money loves to show off, as if signing a lease for a luxury car and using plastic to buy a Hugo Boss suit or Prada handbag is going to really impress anyone.

A few miles away, a woman started a interesting business where she provides a kitchen and ingredients so tha the soccer moms can go and cook dinner and then take the prepared food back home. Presumably, this is so that they don't make a mess in the Viking/sub zero fridge/granite counter top kitchen that never gets used, except for the microwave.

I always find that kind of ironic. Pay tons of money for an awsome massive stove, and never use it... But damn they sure look pretty!:D

G-Benz 10-27-2007 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by David R. Smith (Post 1657885)
A few miles away, a woman started a interesting business where she provides a kitchen and ingredients so tha the soccer moms can go and cook dinner and then take the prepared food back home. Presumably, this is so that they don't make a mess in the Viking/sub zero fridge/granite counter top kitchen that never gets used, except for the microwave.

Hey! Just like our house...except for the "Viking/sub zero fridge/granite counter top kitchen" part...:D

Kuan 10-27-2007 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by David R. Smith (Post 1657885)
It's the difference between old money and new money, because most all people with old money don't have any qualms with doing manual labor around the house and living as inconspicously(sp) as possible.

New money loves to show off, as if signing a lease for a luxury car and using plastic to buy a Hugo Boss suit or Prada handbag is going to really impress anyone.

A few miles away, a woman started a interesting business where she provides a kitchen and ingredients so tha the soccer moms can go and cook dinner and then take the prepared food back home. Presumably, this is so that they don't make a mess in the Viking/sub zero fridge/granite counter top kitchen that never gets used, except for the microwave.

I know tons of people with lovely kitchens, heck, Italian villa inspired kitchens, modern farmhouse, $5,000 worth of copper pots and pans hanging up on display, $2000 worth of knives in a knifeblock, etc. The thing that gets used the most? The microwave.

Mistress 10-27-2007 07:32 AM

Powerpig has the mother of all refidgerators...


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