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Old 11-01-2007, 04:19 PM
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California salmon runs way down

Oh man, I really like wild caught salmon. Low in mercury and high in the good stuff.

This is not encouraging.

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Old 11-01-2007, 04:23 PM
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I had some Copper River Salmon a while back. It was the best! I usually eat the farm-raised Atlantic Salmon they have at Costoc. It tastes good and has extra mercury.
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Are you surprised on that subject? I had an article posted recently about the redirection of water resources in the Sierras affecting the salmon to a dramatic extend. It refers to the Klamath river in Southern Oregon.
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Old 11-01-2007, 08:49 PM
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I knew things were getting bad but you know it's bad when you can count numbers to an accuracy of one.

And I used to count fish eggs and larvae in college.
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Vice President Cheney’s Role in Illegal Water Diversion Prompts Congressional Investigation

June 27, 2007
WASHINGTON – Today, Rep. Mike Thompson (D-CA), along with 35 California and Oregon Members of Congress, called for congressional hearings on Vice President Dick Cheney’s involvement in the political decision that killed 80,000 spawning salmon. They made this request to House Natural Resources Committee Chairman Nick Rahall (D-WV) after a Washington Post investigative report found that Cheney pressured mid-level bureaucrats in the Department of Interior to divert water from the Klamath River Basin for political gain.
"We’ve known since 2002 that the Bush Administration manipulated science in a perverse and petty attempt to win votes," said Thompson. "Now it appears that this manipulation goes straight to the top. Despite what he may think, Vice President Cheney is not above the law and not above Congress’ oversight. We want a thorough investigation of his involvement in the largest salmon kill and fishing disaster in our nation’s history."
In 2002, the Interior Department diverted water from the Klamath River Basin to farmers in Oregon, resulting in the death of 80,000 adult salmon. The Washington Post reports that Vice President Cheney called for the damaging water policy to secure the farmer’s votes, despite scientific evidence that it would endanger two federal protected species of fish, a violation of the Endangered Species Act.
Thompson and others brought a lawsuit against the Administration in 2002, and three courts found that the water diversion was "arbitrary and capricious and in violation of the Endangered Species Act."
In the letter to Chairman Rahall, the Members wrote, "The ramifications of that salmon kill are still being felt today as returns to the Klamath River are so low that commercial, sport and tribal fishing seasons have been curtailed for the past three years. In fact, last year’s commercial fishing season for all of California and Oregon was cut by over 90 percent, and was the largest commercial fishing closure in the history of the country, causing over $60 million in damages to coastal economies."
"Unfortunately, this is not the first instance of Vice President Cheney choosing political gain over the health and welfare of the American people and our natural resources," added Thompson. "It’s time the vice president is brought out of the shadows and held accountable for his actions.
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Old 11-01-2007, 11:22 PM
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Are you surprised on that subject? I had an article posted recently about the redirection of water resources in the Sierras affecting the salmon to a dramatic extend. It refers to the Klamath river in Southern Oregon.
The Klamath has been bad off for a while. These are rivers that were doing well not long ago.

Not really surprised at it at all, sad to say. Being the top dog on the struggle for survival totem pole sounds nifty in a way but the down side is that we are gradually squeezing practically every other form of life, the ones that are useful to us anyway.
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Old 11-01-2007, 11:25 PM
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I had some Copper River Salmon a while back. It was the best! I usually eat the farm-raised Atlantic Salmon they have at Costoc. It tastes good and has extra mercury.
Copper River, that's Alaskan, right? I've read that their salmon is top quality. Even the Alaska runs are under some pressure from inland industrial development in Canada.

I've read some serious horror stories about farmed salmon. Farmed carp is a whole nother matter, as they are essentially vegetarians. They harvest all sorts of other fish in order to feed farmed salmon. Some scary stuff.

Do you really like it? Most of it I've had was pretty weak. They have to use dye to make it red or pink.

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