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Old 12-12-2007, 12:42 PM
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Any organic farmers out there?

I am going to set up 4 raised garden beds this spring. They will be 6' x 12' each with their own water timer. I'll be using my own compost (adding 10 lbs of worms in spring) and topsoil to fill the beds.

Anybody have any suggestions for what to plant and group together to make the beds work better? I am in Zone 6B. I want to try and grow a nice mix of stuff to keep me out of the grocery store.

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Old 12-12-2007, 12:44 PM
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I've got a hellacious compost pile, but I only use it to get grass and plants to grow inmy yard. I'm too lazy to grow my own food. Maybe I'll take that up if I ever get to retire.
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Old 12-12-2007, 01:01 PM
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I am a glass artist and work from home. I figure the more sustainable my lifestyle is, the less I need to rely on steady income. Money always comes in waves. I also think it will be healthier and cool to expose my kids to such things.

I used to not care about such things, but the responsibility of having kids has made me think differently.
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Old 12-12-2007, 01:06 PM
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Google "Compost Tea"...to learn how you can make some decent liquid fertilizer from alfalfa pellets and water. We're looking into how to do it on a larger scale to fertilize our forage. And, I've also visited with the folks at Sustainable Growth Texas about providing these services to us.

I'm not an organic farmer by any stretch but, I truly dislike the agbiz' chemical addiction to pesticides and commercial ferilizers and am willing to explore other possibilites.
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Old 12-12-2007, 01:29 PM
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I am going to set up 4 raised garden beds this spring. They will be 6' x 12' each with their own water timer. I'll be using my own compost (adding 10 lbs of worms in spring) and topsoil to fill the beds.

Anybody have any suggestions for what to plant and group together to make the beds work better? I am in Zone 6B. I want to try and grow a nice mix of stuff to keep me out of the grocery store.
I'm somewhat of an organic gardener mainly because I'm too lazy to bother with fertilization and pest control. Knowing what's on your food is a nice benefit, too. Now that a good portion of our produce is coming from Mexico, using who knows what on it, I try to grow as much as I can in my little suburban lot. I pretty much just keep adding compost every year and it's been fine but if you really get into it the teas do work well. I've got a customer that specializes in the teas for lawn application and swears by them.

I think your best bet is to just group them with similar types: Salad greens and herbs (lettuces, cicoria, spinach, chards and the herbs), Fleshy fruits/veggies (cukes, squashes, tomatoes, peppers), Root crops (radishes, carrots, turnips, beets) and then Peas and Beans. Corn is fun but takes a lot of room and is pretty needy as far as Nitrogen levels go. The groups all have similar water and nutrient needs. Then just rotate them to a different bed every year.

We carried an organic line a few years ago but the handling, storage and packaging protocol was well above our capabilities given the return on investment. Organic and non-organic varieties can not be stored in the same storage area (even though they are in separate sealed and lined bags) and the packaging equipment must be exclusively for the organic seed and in a separate, sealed area from the non-organic packaging equipment (or throughly cleaned in a strict fashion). Since many of the organic farmers in southern N.E. didn't have a problem with plain old untreated seed it didn't make it a tough business decision to go back to our old ways. On a strictly monetary level, the organics ran 3 to 4 times the cost of untreated, open-pollinated varieties. That said, people weren't beating our door down for $20/lb. Danvers carrots and $25 Detroit Dark Red beets.
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Old 12-12-2007, 01:33 PM
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Google "Compost Tea"...to learn how you can make some decent liquid fertilizer from alfalfa pellets and water. We're looking into how to do it on a larger scale to fertilize our forage. And, I've also visited with the folks at Sustainable Growth Texas about providing these services to us.

I'm not an organic farmer by any stretch but, I truly dislike the agbiz' chemical addiction to pesticides and commercial ferilizers and am willing to explore other possibilites.
Thanks for the tip. I make a compost tea currently by adding a few scoops of my compost to a bucket of water and let it sit for a day or two. I use it on my flower beds and in the pots I had tomatoes in. I haven't heard about the alfalfa pellets though.

I have been OK with doing pots of tomatoes and herbs but I need to learn more about being successful with a larger garden. I hope I can pull it off this coming year.
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Old 12-12-2007, 01:57 PM
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I think your best bet is to just group them with similar types: Salad greens and herbs (lettuces, cicoria, spinach, chards and the herbs), Fleshy fruits/veggies (cukes, squashes, tomatoes, peppers), Root crops (radishes, carrots, turnips, beets) and then Peas and Beans. Corn is fun but takes a lot of room and is pretty needy as far as Nitrogen levels go. The groups all have similar water and nutrient needs. Then just rotate them to a different bed every year.
Thanks for your thoughts Swamp. Those groupings seem to be most logical. I want to give myself the best chance for success so I appreciate the input.

My plan is to have these four beds in the corners of an outdoor fenced in dining patio with room for my grill. I have visions of picking veggies from the garden in front of the dinner guests and throwing them on the grill. All will be washed down with homebrew
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Old 12-12-2007, 02:24 PM
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Thanks for the tip. I make a compost tea currently by adding a few scoops of my compost to a bucket of water and let it sit for a day or two. I use it on my flower beds and in the pots I had tomatoes in. I haven't heard about the alfalfa pellets though.
When dealing with forages, Sustainable Growth takes it a step further and 'brews' the tea for the particular forage they want to fertilize. This methodology may work for vegetables as well. I'll look through my notes later and post more details.

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