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Old 12-12-2007, 10:03 PM
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Analyze This: Attack Iran? Tell it to the Marines

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The reason is simple: With close to 190,000 American troops now in Iraq and Afghanistan, US military manpower is being stretched to the limit. A third front in Iran - or even a deterioration of the current situation in Iraq or Afghanistan, a mischief that Teheran is well capable of - would probably stretch those limits beyond the breaking point.

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Old 12-12-2007, 10:15 PM
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Why would we invade Iran? That would make no sense right now.

And who gives a crap about Kosovo, let the EU deal with it. The Germans rolled through that area of the world in about three weeks last time. Let their army deal with it. Why do we always have to get involved.

A half dozen divisions with support could roll right over them.
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Old 12-12-2007, 10:48 PM
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Maybe having the US on their doorstep has made them toe the line on their nuclear ambitiions..... Jumping in to Iran would be easy. Iraq had a much stronger army and we were invading from outside. Now we are camped next door. The Iranians are sweating, not us. They know we still remember the crap the Ayatollah pulled years ago....

Hell, if they went totally stupid and went after Israel, we could sit back and watch Israel annihilate them.



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The reason is simple: With close to 190,000 American troops now in Iraq and Afghanistan, US military manpower is being stretched to the limit. A third front in Iran - or even a deterioration of the current situation in Iraq or Afghanistan, a mischief that Teheran is well capable of - would probably stretch those limits beyond the breaking point.
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Old 12-12-2007, 10:52 PM
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Maybe having the US on their doorstep has made them toe the line on their nuclear ambitiions..... Jumping in to Iran would be easy. Iraq had a much stronger army and we were invading from outside. Now we are camped next door. The Iranians are sweating, not us. They know we still remember the crap the Ayatollah pulled years ago....

Hell, if they went totally stupid and went after Israel, we could sit back and watch Israel annihilate them.

Going by IDF's stellar performance in Lebanon, I seriously doubt it. Without US direct involvement, it would be their end as well as Irans'.
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Why would we invade Iran? That would make no sense right now.
Didn't make any sense to invade Iraq, but that didn't stop W. Let's not misunderestimate him.
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Old 12-12-2007, 11:10 PM
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He is done invading. The war is starting to go in the right direction, he is just going to let it play out.
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The reason is simple: With close to 190,000 American troops now in Iraq and Afghanistan, US military manpower is being stretched to the limit. A third front in Iran - or even a deterioration of the current situation in Iraq or Afghanistan, a mischief that Teheran is well capable of - would probably stretch those limits beyond the breaking point.
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He is done invading. The war is starting to go in the right direction, he is just going to let it play out.
Hitlary will ESCALATE it.........just like that war-monger LBJ .
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I think the ME is so volatile right now, that if anything were to happen between Israel and Iran, one could immediately throw Russian pilots and Syrian land forces into the equation. It would be 1973 all over again.
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I think the ME is so volatile right now, that if anything were to happen between Israel and Iran, one could immediately throw Russian pilots and Syrian land forces into the equation. It would be 1973 all over again.
And given the incompetence of Russian pilots and Syrian land forces would the result would likely not be to their advantage.

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I think the ME is so volatile right now, that if anything were to happen between Israel and Iran, one could immediately throw Russian pilots and Syrian land forces into the equation. It would be 1973 all over again.
IIRC, Syria just felt the wrath of Israeli power. Me for one don't think they'll step up for another helping.
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And given the incompetence of Russian pilots and Syrian land forces would the result would likely not be to their advantage.

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IIRC, Syria just felt the wrath of Israeli power. Me for one don't think they'll step up for another helping.

I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss Syrian infantry. After all, this was the mistake that Israel made in '06 with Hezbullah, as it turned out they were very competent in regards to unconventional warfare. In a very uncharacteristic move, Israel decided to fight the '06 war via conventional warfare by setting up a defined front.. warning Lebanese citizens on CNN: "Everyone south of the Litani should get the hell out". This practice of choosing aerial raids, opting for special operations only towards the very end by injecting SF's deep into enemy territory... has been labeled by many as THE mistake. From what I have gathered, Israel should have placed many more SF troops (I believe they have abundant numbers in this respect) deep into enemy territory and have them attack strategic points, while their mechanized "engineering" forces moved north from Israel. The Air Force should have been utilized only to provide ground support, as is the practice of US forces.


In regards to the whole ME issue, I think General Petraeus has the right idea when he argues that the long-term solution is not overwhelming military force, but rather forceful diplomacy and the creation of Western-friendly social structures that need to be built from the ground-up. I BELIEVE THE US IS SUCCEEDING HERE. The reason why Hamas, Hezbollah, and Al Sadr's armies are so powerful is due to the amount of support they have showed to their respective populations... this is obvious. General Petraeus has noted that we need to take care of basic life necessities for these people before they will start showing us any respect. I think he's on to something...
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Why would we invade Iran? That would make no sense right now.

And who gives a crap about Kosovo, let the EU deal with it. The Germans rolled through that area of the world in about three weeks last time. Let their army deal with it. Why do we always have to get involved.

A half dozen divisions with support could roll right over them.
Being reading some more Guderian, eh?
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Old 12-13-2007, 01:35 PM
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Being reading some more Guderian, eh?
I have a lot of faith in the ability of a few Panzer divisions to get results.

The Balkans Campaign was very fast and didn't really require much deployment of force. Eastern European countries are weak, just spring boards for Germany and Russia to go at it really.

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