Anyone use Herbalife products?
 

Just curious, my friend has started selling them, and have sampled a few products, and really like what I have tried so far. Anyone with bad experiences with their products?

I ran into a guy I know on Christmas Eve who I hadn't seen in a number of years. He used to sell that stuff about 20 years ago.
All I can say is, boy , he sure aged a lot...and it clearly shows.:D
If he's still taking it, it doesn't prevent bulging waist lines or white hair from entering the picture.:D:eek:

It's a clear 'stay-away'.

I tried the products about 15 years ago. At first it seemed to be amazing, little did I know, some of the tablets contain laxitives, so you know what happens. It makes you feel great to get rid of all the ****.

Once I stopped, after just 1 month, I immediately had the worst constipation of my life, seriously. Never again.

When they can show FDA level of tests that prove efficacy, I'll believe it. Till then, I'll believe that they stick with the "supplement" label so they can make ludicrous claims and get away with it.

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We used to buy some of their vitamins from a friend who sold them. They were very expensive and I was never convinced they were really all that great.

Tom W

We want to know what happened to you. Did you crap in your pants? Did a rubber stopper help? Did it improve your sprinting time to the bathroom? How often did you make it to the commode?

Diarrhea and you complain. Constipation and you complain. There is no pleasing some people

So why would you buy them if you didn't think they were all that great?

the things we do to maintain a friendship :rolleyes:

I think I will stick to the stuff I can buy in the store. I am mostly looking at stuff for my joints, and I think I found some even better stuff for the same price or slightly less than Herbalife. I might also want to try a detox treatment of some kind, found some for around $20 compaired to $100 for Herbalife :eek:

If I value a friendship, I don't want to do business with them. Just as selling a car to a family member, you will get shafted each time and nobody will be happy.

I'm really curious how they work tho. After all, if you eat the stuff, won't most of it be digested? We tried it for our arthritic dog but after a year and a half, it didn't work worth a damn. The only thing that worked was Adequan Canine. To bad they don't have something like that for humans.

Efficacy: Efficacy of Adequan ® Canine was demonstrated in two studies. A laboratory study using radiolabeled PSGAG established distribution of PSGAG into canine serum and synovial fluid following a single intramuscular injection of 2 mg/lb. A clinical field trial was conducted in dogs diagnosed with radiographicallyconfirmed traumatic and/or degenerative joint disease of 1 or 2 joints. Joints evaluated included hips, stifles, shoulders, hocks and elbows. Fiftyone dogs were randomly assigned to receive either Adequan ®
Canine at 2 mg/lb of body weight or 0.9% saline. Both treatments were administered by intramuscular injection twice weekly for 4 weeks (8 injections total). Investigators administering treatment and evaluating the dogs were unaware of the treatment assignment. A total of 71 limbs in 51 dogs were evaluated. Of these, 35 limbs in 24 dogs were in the Adequan ® Canine treated group. Each lame limb was scored for lameness at a walk, lameness at a trot, pain, range of motion, and functional disability. The scores for the individual parameters were combined to determine a total orthopedic score. At the end of the treatment period, dogs treated with Adequan® Canine showed a statistically significant improvement in range of motion and total orthopedic score over placebo treated control dogs. Indications and Usage: Adequan ® Canine is recommended for intramuscular injection for the control of signs associated with noninfectious degenerative and/or traumatic arthritis
of canine synovial joints

They might have something like that for humans but we don't know about it yet

I formed the opinion AFTER buying them not before. If I thought they were crap before there would have been no purchase.

Tom W

Back then, they only had a limited variety of products.
The tablets claim to increase your metabolism and cut appetite. The powder was supposed to be dietry supplement, containing protein, vitamins etc ...

There was an increase in frequency of bathroom sessions (#2) through stimulation of the intestinal tract, resulting from the tablets.

After I stopped the tablets and the products a month later, the frequency of #2 sessions decreased instantly to zero, for several days or until I got to the drugstore and ingested a good amount of laxitive, which ever comes first.

What happened was, my intestinal tract became dependend on the stimulating Herbalife Formula. Once I stopped taking it, it's immediate reaction was total inactivity.

This is a very common occurance. In fact you can read this on every laxitive packaging, saying, continued comsumtion will result in dependency.

Ofcourse it doesn't tell you that on the HerbaLife packaging and ofcourse HerbaLife products are not defined as laxitives.

I'm sorry, I cannot provide any more excitement involving HerbaLife products.

But I could tell you about other detox recipies, where you are well adviced to keep visual contact to suitable bathroom facilities and guaranteed access, once the need for it arises ... :D

For joint pain, I'd try the Patty McPeak formula. I tried a few others. The McPeak stuff seamed to work. Its based on rice bran. I got it off of E-Bay. There were some infomercials for it on TV. It noticed a bit more energy when I took the stuff.
I would also look at some exercise stuff. I noticed no knee pain after a dance event, when I did a seminar/workout of Pallaties. Also check out Egosque. Pallaties is about core streangth, Egosque is about balancing the body through excersise.
I have tired a few of the flushes. I can't rate one better than the other. I haven't tried the ones on TV. I did the 'Master Cleanse'. Its not a product. Basically, drink real lemonade with real maple sryup mixed in for sweatner. Actually, the maple syrup has vitamins etc. Drink only it for 3 days or more. No food either. Then try and eat salads and fresh fruits and vegtables.
Tom

They aren't defined as a laxative because they aren't. Fiber is NOT a laxative.
In my opinion your bowel movements were normal for someone going through dieting and changing food intake. If you take lots of protein and very little else you will get constipated. Take fiber and you won't notice any difference when dieting.

That said a friend of mine gave me some and they work OK. They don't completely stop the hunger but it calms the craving down a lot. I've used it on and off for the past few months and didn't notice any of the conditions LaRondo mentioned.

I do not think I would go out and buy the stuff. It is expensive. You can get protein powder anywhere. I wonder if places like Chamberlains or Whole Foods has similar products. I would bet they do and a lot cheaper.

Danny

http://www.forbes.com/home/free_forbes/2004/1004/116.html

Heber sits on Herbalife's newly created scientific advisory board, a perch he accepted around the time the multilevel marketer made a $3 million donation to the Center for Human Nutrition at UCLA, where he is the director. Herbalife's money was well spent. The name of Heber's weight-loss plan and his book promote the company's signature product.

Michael Johnson, the new chief executive of Los Angeles-headquartered Herbalife, hopes associations like this will finally lend the firm some legitimacy. Johnson, who joined Herbalife last year, is the company's third boss since its founder, Mark Hughes, died of an overdose of antidepressant medication and alcohol in 2000. As the former president of Walt Disney International, Johnson, 49, knows a thing or two about the power of image--and of pixie dust. "Herbalife is ready for a second wind," he says.

Fiber is not laxitive. That's correct.

HerbaLife tablets and capsules don't consist exclusively of fiber. They contain additional ingredients, of which I am sure they act as a stimulant within the digestive system. Meaning an increased frequency of colon contractions, similar to coffee. Coffee is not a declared laxitive either, yet everybody knows what coffee does ... ehem, in the morning :eek:

I remember there were also tablets in higher concentration containing Guarana among other ingredients, which is a high potency caffeine substance. Actually way better than coffee.

I am sure HerbaLife has changed their Formulas during the last 15 years.

And yes, you can accomplish even better results for less by browsing health food stores etc.

Niteworks is made from L-arginine, an amino acid that helps produce nitric oxide. Like all of Herbalife's concoctions, Niteworks hasn't received a nod from the Food & Drug Administration--but it doesn't need one. Although medicines can be sold only after their safety and efficacy have been proved, dietary supplements, such as Niteworks, get a laissez-faire pass. Herbalife is careful to make no medical claims for Niteworks--but it can't control what its 1 million distributors say about it.

I think that about says it all. I don't make any medical claims since I have NO safety and efficacy tests to prove what I say. But hey, I don't know about the guy selling it to you.

Sorry, if you want to call it a "medicine", make it go thru the same hoops. I can't make something up that looks like a bicycle and call it a car.

Sure, change it. How? Add a little something else and call it a different product? Will it work better? How do we know this? Their good word? The word of somebody who doesn't want to make it pass any proper tests?

With what tho? More of the same untested and/or unproven products?

Just try it. You can always volunteer as a guinea pig at your own expense ...

There is a place called Covance and they do medical research for drugs awaiting FDA approval. also there are numerous companies doing such studies. My point is I can get paid to be a guinea pig. Why would I do it for free or at my expense?

I have some of those, those things are expensive. When I take those, I feel energetic all day...

Trader Joe's used to sell Guarana extract tablets at $2.99 for a 60 count or so. They don't carry it anymore.

Guarana is good stuff, one needs to keep in mind, it accumulates when taken every day, faster than it breaks down and is expelled.

I used those on a road trip from CA to FL.
When I arrived in Miami I stopped taking them, still I couldn't sleep for almost 48 hours.
After that I collapsed ...

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For bad joints try Vodka, its worked for thousands of years and is all natural!:D

I'm not a fan of vodka straight. How if you are talking of it in a Long Island Iced Tea, bring it over.

A scam? ^^ There's your answer. :eek:

What ever happened to just using plain common sense when it comes to dietary issues.

I would think that over the past 20 years or more that there has been enough information on dietary facts related to the human body, that we should be able to simply let common sense if not basic public knowledge rule in eating right and maintain good dietary (as well as overall) health without the need for a daily hand full of some supplement or another.

i.e.:
You need certain levels of such things as fiber, vitamins, proteins etc.
(Most folks are smart enough to figure out how and where to get these from common grocery store items.)
You can not live a healthy life eating at McDs five nights a week.
(If anyone has not figured this out by now...:rolleyes:)
Eating foods that are proven to not be “healthy”, and then thinking that a daily handful of some supplement or a glass of some concoction is going to keep them healthy...:rolleyes:
(Get real. I hate hearing idiots state that their bodies can handle all the hydrogenated crap they dump into it, so long as they take regiment of supplemented fiber, vitamins, etc.)

You want to loose weight:
Eat right and exercise.
(Ever notice that DAMN NEAR EVERY dietary supplement and/or loose weight supplement on the market states in the fine print something down the lines of: “When combined with proper diet and exercise.” ?? Get a clue.)

You want to feel good:
Eat right and exercise.

And NO. A hand full of any product like this is not any part of "eat right."

Yeah, I always wonder why people aren't all rich too.:rolleyes:

Apples/Oranges :rolleyes:

Maybe because not all people feel the need to be "rich". Not to mention, doing so takes a whole different mind set.

Everyone feels the need to eat.
And when they do so poorly, they run out thinking they can order some supplement to make them feel all better.

Trying to peddle your crap here are you?

What he said.

Michael Phelps? ;)

Yep, what ever happened to good 'ole common sense?

Died a long time ago

Yep.

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I think it may very well be directly related to people taking responsibility for their own lives and how they live them.

Come to think of it... It IS directly related.

I think it dates back to the bedtime story days where children are told that someone big and strong but belevelont will come and take care of all their problems and they will, like the character in the story, live happily ever after.

WOW, this is old. I've actually started using other stuff I find at my local Target store, but I rarely use them. I also have upped my coffee drinking a lot :D

Yes......it's the Amway of pills. I believe it's snake oil. :mad:

run - don't walk - far away. its a scam. and its bad for you. (too many stimulants, laxatives. and don't "fast". it lowers your setpoint.

wanna lose weight?

start exercising. every day. give up booze and dairy. and fried foods.

and don't look at a scale. you'll know if you're working it right.

figure six months to lose 20 lbs.

(was 220 - now 180. took one year. been steady for one year):D

thats all. no more sermons.

And I'll bet you sell it too. How much for a pound of that stuff if I want to see it stuffed up you where the sun don't shine?

Friend? Say's who? Got a lot of nerve joining this forum so you can peddle your crap product. I think Aklim's right, why don't you try an Herbalife enema.