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Looking at an '84 500SEC...thoughts, opinions?
Saw this at a bank lot on the way back from a (what else) soccer game.
Always liked these cars, and want to fix this up for my daughter, who will be of driving age in a few years. Car has 171,000 miles...owner posted $6999 as the asking price. Will meet the owner later this week for a test drive. He says he owned it for 21 years and that it's his daily driver. Stuff allegedly performed within the last 50K miles: Top-end rebuild. Transmission replacement Assorted suspension pieces. Normal wear and tear maintenance. These pics were from my camera phone. From this distance (and resolution), you cant see the numerous dinged-up panels. Rear bumper has flaking chrome: Light blue? interior was in fair to average condition...noticeable split in the middle of the dash. Wood pieces were sunworn but not cracked. What do you guys think? Look closer or walk away? Thinking of having the lower cladding painted to match the body color if I buy this...unless there are AMG pieces still available. My indie has some decent chrome AMG monoblocks that came off another SEC. I may throw those on (since the car is replete with the chrome treatment anyway)...
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Airbag and ABS?
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Not sure, but I would want both for a new driver.
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Ditto what PaulC said, but will also add - that is a whole lot of car for a young daughter and first time driver? Safe and heavy but also fast and rear-wheel drive...plus a coupe...maybe there is a better choice?
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Not so fast. Horsepower is in the 185 range with a 0-60 time around 9 seconds. Ford Focus territory.
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do it.
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If you are talking 1984, then -
ABS and or airbags are only on the Euro cars. Not on these. This one has the fat US bumpers, so likely not. Post up the VIN# for us, or run it on the Russian site, then you'll know what equipment on it there is. If it's WDBCA it's a US spec car. II suspect so because of the position of the exhaust pipe. If ir reads WDB, then it's a euro.
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Why?
As described, I think it's at least a couple of thousand $$$ overpriced.
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Indeed, I stand corrected. Thought it would have been much faster...
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To me the price is too high, to buy it in the first place and then to operate it.
Say this to yourself slowly over and over: Premium Gasolene. That's a good quality picture for a camera phone. I must be about five years behind in that technology...... Ken300D
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Do you see you daughter herding this pile of tin around for 5 more years?
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Run the thing through a car wash and see if it leaks into the interior and trunk. Open the hood and check for leaves, twigs and gunk in the cowl area ahead of the windshield glass. That's a good sign of whether the owner was fussy, anal. It's a Lapis blue car, one of the prettiest colors for the 1981-1985 Gen I coupes. Join benzword.com and go to the W126 fourm anbd get the comments there. Real experts on these live there. This one has those awful, ugly, dreadful chromed wheel arches, which if not then, could now hide rust and rot. I guess you might as well leave them alone ***I co-wrote it back in 1998, and I still stand behind what is in there now, so nevermind the prices, but the other advice is good, and so is the check off list in there you can print out. This seller wants ALL THE MONEY for it, so he might be a greed head (Texas has plenty of Those!!) and you described some real visible faults. For what he wants for it it better have ALL books and records and be damn near perfect. These things are kind of dogs on the market these days... I could understand the interest if it was a Diesel, it might be different. One good thing , he liked it at least enough to put Ruro lights and Euro amber front corners on it. I guess you could lower it, fix it up and make a real street sweeper out of it. It's a nice starting point. The basic car is nice. And 500 engines are good ones, it was the flagship car, and new in Germany cost over $40k in the gray market that year. A lot of money, back then. Those chromed bundt cake wheels are as ugly as sin on a soda cracker. My impression at first glance is that I am underwhelmed.
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What is the HP of the 560? I think the Euro version of the 500 is about 225HP, isn't it?
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Euro 560s put out near 300HP.
I think that the american versions put down like 260HP.
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I think American 560's were in the 225 - 230 hp range.
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