The Two-Girl Fortress Has Fallen!! - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

Jim B. · #1 03-16-2008, 04:51 AM

From: Resident traveller/Blogspot

(I believe any guy who has ever been in a nightclub, bar, or at a dance can relate to this

In a previous post, I introduced the TGF - Two Girl Fortress - as the impregnable wall, the unsolvable riddle, the nemesis of Nice Guys the world over. No longer. Today, I've officially cracked it. Hurray, the king is dead!

Quick recap: Often occurring at a night spot, a TGF is a situation where 1) two (or more) ladies are engaged in conversation, 2) you're interested in one of them, and 3) there's no possibility of eye contact with her (e.g. she has her back to you), and thus no hope of a reciprocated "go ahead" smile.

Why not just talk to her, you ask? Hold on, there's more.. As I'd written in said post:

"Here's my problem: I need a ruse. I cannot, under any circumstances, walk up to two ladies in the middle of a conversation and say "hi", without having some reasonable excuse for doing it. I'm towering above them as they sit, I'm cutting into their lively conversation, and I'm still basically nobody to them. I don't care if she or both are single and looking; I don't care how many times you'll tell me it's "normal" and "expected" and "flattering"; I don't care if you've uncovered her secret diary expressly saying she wishes someone who looked just like me would walk right up to her in the middle of a conversation and start talking - I will never feel like anything other than an intrusive stranger butting in. My price for being civilized."

So, 4) I'm a polite non-actor who doesn't enjoy butting into total strangers' lively conversation with a ludicrously transparent agenda. The situation's stressful enough as it is! There you have it: the TGF. One tough nut to crack.

Fast forward to this evening. Ran into a classic TGF: I was at a bar with a couple friends, sitting at a table, there were two girls ahead of me, and the one I was interested in was with her back to me. My brain goes into action again, furiously trying to figure out how to solve this old doozy. Clutching at straws, I thought I'd try a technique I had once fantasized about doing, a trick that requires a great deal of confidence and good humor to work. Tonight, for a change, I had it - encountering this dilemma yet again, after so many other instances, allowed me to see its comic side, and ease up just enough to try. I won't say what the trick is, because it's kind of embarrassing. For the sake of the story, I'll just say that it allows me to stay seated and yet try to get her attention.

So I gave it a try. Just as I started, however, she got up to go to the bathroom, rendering my attempts futile. This felt like a sign from the heavens: some higher force, the same one who's enjoyed taunting me for years with beautiful, attached ladies and TGF's, was laughing at my attempts to storm the old fortress. Predictably, this took most of the wind out of it for me. My army had thundered towards the walls, morale high, with all their bravery and might, only to storm an empty fortress. Needless to say, they now saw their commander as kind of a jackass...

Normally I would stop here. There's only a short window of opportunity where you're still hopeful and self-confident enough to try these things; after that, you slide into self-awareness and thus lose any chance of being charming enough for a total stranger to accommodate you. But I couldn't give up yet. Something about still, after all these years, being unable to come up with a reasonable solution to this frustrating quandary told me that. She came back to the table.

I summoned what little remaining ease and confidence I had, and tried again. But this time, there was simply no response. Try as I did to raise my voice, she couldn't seem to hear me. If she did, she certainly wasn't showing it.. She must've assumed I'm a loud busybody - surely an endearing quality! My army had attacked the correct fortress all right, but this time it had been roundly defeated. Bruised and battered, the surviving few came back to report it's time to call it quits. With my friends trying to console me - poor guys, they probably wondered why I was taking this so personally; if only they knew the demons I was facing! - I pretty much did.

Then her friend got up to go to the bathroom.

By this point, I'd become quite sick and tired of this feeling of helplessness. "aw, f**ck it!". With no hesitation, and certainly no game-plan, I got up and sat opposite her. I was smiling. This was going to be honest. "Look," I said, "I've been trying all night to figure out a way to hit on you. Now, I know this is kind of sudden and out of the blue, but I'll be sitting right over there. If you think you might be interested, feel free to let me know on your way out or something. No pressure, and sorry if I've made you feel uncomfortable."

I got up and went back to my seat, exhausted but vindicated. I'd done it! Thing is, though, about halfway through my little speech, she gave me that look of "that's sweet but I have a boyfriend; you can stop now. Please?" I wasn't too optimistic, but at least I'd tried, and that was something.

I'm back at the table. No response from her. She doesn't turn around, her girlfriend facing me doesn't give any communicative, playful looks at me, nothing. I wait for a while longer and then announce to the guys we can go - I get the message.

As I step out - another rejection for the record books - the unthinkable happens. She gets up and practically chases after me outside the bar. "Is it still relevant?" she asks. So cute.. "Of course it is!" Apparently, I'd completely misinterpreted her reaction.

A short conversation later, I had her number.

t walgamuth · #2 03-16-2008, 08:05 AM

ahhhhhhhh, the old bar scene.

I don't miss it.

Glad your tactic worked.

Tom W

Botnst · #3 03-16-2008, 09:15 AM

Man, right an ****** novel. That is a great read!

Medmech · #4 03-16-2008, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Botnst

Man, right an ****** novel. That is a great read!

more here B,

Quote:

Ramblings of an English-Speaking Native-Born Israeli Guy

http://residenttraveler.blogspot.com/2006/12/ultimate-open-challenge-two-girl.html

POS · #5 03-16-2008, 10:52 AM

Glad I'm married to a good one.

aklim · #6 03-16-2008, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim B.

A short conversation later, I had her number.

When you get into her panties, let us know. We want sights, sounds, pictures if you get them.

Oh, TTIWWP. What does she look like? Ht, Wt, Hair Color, Eye Color, Cup Size, Panty Size, favorite sex toy, etc, etc.

Kuan · #7 03-16-2008, 09:56 PM

It's a ruse. They go out in pairs just so guys they don't like don't get any play. You gotta hit the two girl fortress with two guys. One guy pretends to be interested in the "other" girl while you hit on the one you like.

TheDon · #8 03-16-2008, 10:29 PM

two girls one cup..... yea

Hatterasguy · #9 03-16-2008, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Kuan

It's a ruse. They go out in pairs just so guys they don't like don't get any play. You gotta hit the two girl fortress with two guys. One guy pretends to be interested in the "other" girl while you hit on the one you like.

Yep, thats what your wingman is for. Sometimes her friend is butt ugly so he has to take one for the team!