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hoborobot69 03-18-2008 11:18 PM

Apple breaks the law
 
went to get an iPhone today this thing is rad and now I can post on forums anytime!

But I tried to pay with cash but they told me I could only pay with a card what gives? Isn't it stated on every bill of our currency that this note is legal tender for ALL debts ??? I love the product thank Allah that the AT&T store let me pay cash but does this smell of credit fraud to anyone else?

It was just shocking never had cash turned down for anything I mean cash is cash right?

MTUpower 03-18-2008 11:20 PM

Is this a diesel apple made by MB? :confused:

hoborobot69 03-18-2008 11:23 PM

diesel by proximity.

retx 03-18-2008 11:30 PM

Nothing illegal about it. They are not breaking the law at all. You cant get a building permit with cash, you cant pay for you license or plate with cash (in most states). The Coinage Act states that all US currency is legal tender, but makes no provisions or guidelines that businesses must accept it as payment.
Ive lived in 3 towns/cities with their own local currency. Chapel Hill/Carrboro NC for one of the largest amounts, has their own currency for use in local stores.

http://www.treas.gov/education/faq/currency/legal-tender.shtml

bustedbenz 03-18-2008 11:32 PM

Right. Although the notes are "legal tender", when you choose to buy something you essentially are independently contracting with the seller: "I'll give you goods if you give me whatever I want in exchange", usually money.

They can demand whatever they like because you are under no obligation to buy from them in the first place. They can say "Go deal with somebody else".

retx 03-18-2008 11:37 PM

If it were the case then im suing all the soda machine owners for not allowing me to use my pennies in their machines. its legal tender right?

JimmyL 03-18-2008 11:46 PM

Did you accidentally miss the Open Discussion tab? This ain't the place......
William, you gave me a good chuckle.....:P

pawoSD 03-19-2008 12:14 AM

Michigan gladly accepts cash for license/registration/plates. :D In fact, until recently, they didn't accept credit cards at all. Only debit, checks, and cash. :D


On a side note: Apple Corp/Steve Jobs is evil and breaks every law they can. :D :D :D They are like big brother to their customers and have shady cover-ups of security flaws in their system and hardware problems with their products. They delete threads on their support site if someone complains or asks about a hardware issue with their product!!! Amazing.

*flame suit on*

retx 03-19-2008 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by pawoSD (Post 1797520)
Michigan gladly accepts cash for license/registration/plates. :D In fact, until recently, they didn't accept credit cards at all. Only debit, checks, and cash. :D


On a side note: Apple Corp/Steve Jobs is evil and breaks every law they can. :D :D :D They are like big brother to their customers and have shady cover-ups of security flaws in their system and hardware problems with their products. They delete threads on their support site if someone complains or asks about a hardware issue with their product!!! Amazing.

*flame suit on*

youre really trying to start something here huh. lol
ive used macs for 20 years. have never ever ever ever had a security issue. with anything.

Hatterasguy 03-19-2008 12:56 AM

Charge it and write it off as a business expense. Just hide it in their under office expenses.:D Or gifts...

pawoSD 03-19-2008 01:39 AM

I'm always ready to fight it out over the problems with Mac's....I'll agree they are fine for many people. But to those that like *freedom* in computing, they are quite limiting/closed/expensive.

Mac's do have security flaws, they are simply not exploited. With such a puny amount of the pc market running mac's....what incentive is there for a hacker to write a virus or spyware/adware etc to run on or exploit a mac? The impact of spreading such an app would be ultra-small compared to trying to spread it on the windows platform.

If Mac's were 90% of the market (I shudder at the thought) then they'd be hacked and exploited all the time.

OS X Leopard was released too early and had several important security flaws that apple had to scramble to patch and fix....so the problem occurs on Macs too.

I don't care what type of PC a person chooses to own, I just prefer the windows/linux environment over mac.

To each his own I guess.

Ara T. 03-19-2008 02:04 AM

I dont really buy that whole... there are too few mac users for people to create viruses for them...

If Mac users and the commercials are constantly bragging about how its hard to get a virus on their Mac, there would be a ton of virus programmers trying to prove them wrong.

And they have, there are some viruses/trojans/worms that are capable of infecting OS X. But not nearly as many as there are for Windows. OSX is simply a more idiot proof OS.

Best way to prevent viruses? Don't surf for porn :)

No, i am not a mac user and nor will I ever be. Their designs are a bit too form over function for me.. too trendy, plus I like to game on my PC.

ForcedInduction 03-19-2008 03:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pawoSD (Post 1797569)
I'm always ready to fight it out over the problems with Mac's....I'll agree they are fine for many people. But to those that like *freedom* in computing, they are quite limiting/closed/expensive.

Mac's do have security flaws, they are simply not exploited. With such a puny amount of the pc market running mac's....what incentive is there for a hacker to write a virus or spyware/adware etc to run on or exploit a mac? The impact of spreading such an app would be ultra-small compared to trying to spread it on the windows platform.

If Mac's were 90% of the market (I shudder at the thought) then they'd be hacked and exploited all the time.

OS X Leopard was released too early and had several important security flaws that apple had to scramble to patch and fix....so the problem occurs on Macs too.

I don't care what type of PC a person chooses to own, I just prefer the windows/linux environment over mac.

To each his own I guess.

What does that have to do with the iPhone?

aklim 03-19-2008 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoborobot69 (Post 1797475)
It was just shocking never had cash turned down for anything I mean cash is cash right?

Yes and no. Cash means I have to keep a register and have someone count it at night, have a safe for money, make deposits, etc, etc. Some apartment complexes are getting irritated at having their rent paid in cash. That means at the first of the month, give or take a few days, they have to count it, store it, deposit it when it gets to a certain amount, etc, etc. We won't even talk about theft risk when you have employees.

With credit or debit, I don't have to worry so much. I can deposit it when I want, don't have to worry about employee theft, easier to get the amount correct, etc, etc.

Dee8go 03-19-2008 01:25 PM

Cash?! Terrorists use that, don't they?

Just sayin' . . . .

raymr 03-19-2008 01:48 PM

Try renting a car with cash, hahha. Better yet, don't even try.

LUVMBDiesels 03-19-2008 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dee8go (Post 1798090)
Cash?! Terrorists use that, don't they?

Just sayin' . . . .

Anybody who uses cash for anything is either a mobster or a terrorist!

LUVMBDiesels 03-19-2008 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raymr (Post 1798112)
Try renting a car with cash, hahha. Better yet, don't even try.


Did it once... they want 2x the amount! They refund the difference when you bring back the car. At least that was how 'Hurts" did it back in the 1990's

hill 03-19-2008 01:59 PM

I know that DFG in my area will not take fines in cash. They said it was a security issue. Lets see they had a safe and a impound room and they all had guns:rolleyes:

Dee8go 03-19-2008 02:53 PM

I never knew ANYone turned down cash . . .

aklim 03-19-2008 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dee8go (Post 1798177)
I never knew ANYone turned down cash . . .

Why not? How do I know the money you are giving my employee is not fake or stolen? How do I know that the money you give me is not going to be stolen? How do I know that the person bringing it to the bank will be safe?

BobK 03-19-2008 03:12 PM

The government has been trying to get rid of cash for years. Electronic transactions are their favorite. The can trace that easiest. (and monitor dynamically). They tried to get rid of $50 and $100 bills awhile back. Face it, they want to track every cent you make and spend (and tax both ends).

MTI 03-19-2008 03:52 PM

Freedom in computing . . . :rolleyes:

The ultimate oxymoron: Personal Computer

bustedbenz 03-19-2008 03:56 PM

Well if you want freedom in computing then Microsoft (The Evil Empire, as I like to call it) - is a definite poor start. For years their only contribution has been vastly overcharging for underdesigned software... or at least, well-designed software with more bugs than it's worth to fight.

Yes, Leopard had some flaws... but they fixed them. I've been a Mac user since the Motorola 68k days... overall, they just WORK better.

Linux... it'd be great if installations weren't so daunting for inexperienced end-users. That's the only major factor keeping it from being a viable "Windows" replacement. Yes, it can be figured out... but if a few mundane tasks like that were made simple, it would have an edge.


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