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Old 04-29-2008, 03:25 PM
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Obama: Um Rev. Wright we are getting some static because of my association with you.

Rev. Wright: So you are firing me?

Obama: Its not personal its politics

Rev. Wright: But I'm supposed to be your mentor, spiritual advisor, friend and all that stuff you said about me.

Obama: I'll call you when I'm in the White House

Rev. Wright: F- You whitey

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Old 04-29-2008, 03:37 PM
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I like the "TV Funnies" occasionally aired on SNL. A recent one featured Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton confronting Obama about joining his campaign. He gived them "secret" diplomatic duties that ultimately wind both of them in remote locations in faraway continents! It was a funny skit. Wish Wright could have been added back then!
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Old 04-29-2008, 03:41 PM
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"our supposedly Christian nation"

By what possible measure could anyone call this a Christian nation?
There was a time when a majority expressed a Christian world-life view, even if not actually being Christians. That is no longer the case. Even moral tenets as basic as the ten commandments are no longer held by a majoroty of Americans. Lying is accepted if it furthers your political aims. In fact if you are a liberal, the news media will marvel at how skillfully you parse your words. Aldultery is more common than monogamy. A large slice of our economy is built on coveting--" I gotta have_____". Taking the Lord's name in vain?--I know I hear that one broken dozens of times every day--I work in construction. The concept of a Creator who will also hold accountable His Creation is foreign to our national thinking.
We are the nation of humanism--we trumpet everything that elevates MAN, and defies any possible Creator.

I prefer the line once attributed to A. Lincoln, and here only poorly remembered --I care not so much as to whether God is on my side as to whether or not I am on His.
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Not to be dismissive, but I would think most EDUCATED
blacks would be able to discern the difference from a single documented (admittedly horrible) incident that occurred in the 1940s from a modern. groundless, wild conspiracy theory.

Wouldn't you?
About the same percentage of EDUCATED caucasians who believe that Iraq had anything to do with the terrorist attacks of 9/11, no?
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Old 04-29-2008, 04:36 PM
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Old 04-29-2008, 04:43 PM
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I listened to the audio of the Q&A after his speech yesterday. The combination of his self-indulgent, dismissive answers to the questions and the crowd cheering him on was deadly. He said things that were mildly funny and not terribly imaginative and some people in the crowd just went crazy for him. The moderator had to keep trying to get the crowd to shut up so that she could ask the questions. It was awful. It's a long way to November, but right now it's looking more and more like a McCain presidency, which is just ridiculous.
I just listened to the vid. in the OP and while it was a bit redundant and lengthy, the guy is exactly right and I'm glad to hear a brother lay it down like that. I've experienced Wright's sort of pugnacious black pride before and it's a tough one.

I'm thinking that the best route for Nov. is Hillary/Obama. Clinton is older and IS more experienced, Obama is too badly wounded to win it all. Hillary and Bill would never settle for the vice presidency while Obama at least has a logical reason to do so, as he was merely a state legislator in the recent past.

McCain has plenty of dirt in his pen, Hagee can be seen on video making remarks on Catholocism every bit as rude as Maher and less rational. And, McCain is dirty as sin with lobbyists.

On the flip side, one more 'Bush term' ought to make it clear (at the expense of major damage to the nation) that the Repo vision as currently practiced is just not sound.
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The difference is that with the Tuskegee Experiment, the US finally acknowledged the truth.
With the AIDS myth, it is entirely a lie made up by people who hated America ( USSR/KGB). I would think that once that has been shown to be a complete fabrication any further positive reference is a willfil siding with those sinster forces ( USSR/KGB) who hated America. Or ignorance. Or exploitation....
There was some dredged up CIA file that mentioned using some chemical agent that would make it look like Patrice Loombooya what's his name (Mobutu's predecessor) died of a local disease. Some have speculated that the CIA managed to make the AIDS virus for that purpose and that it then went way off the reservation. I mean, it IS suspected that the virus originated in the vicinity.

I don't think they had the ability to create such a thing back then, but such is the stuff that conspiracy theories turn on.
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...I'm thinking that the best route for Nov. is Hillary/Obama...
I don't see how Hillary and Obama can run on the same ticket. She is on record as saying that she and McCain are qualified to be Commander in Chief. She also strongly implied that Obama is not qualified. How can she ever support him for President or Vice President?

That comment alone is probably enough for me to not vote for Hillary if she is nominated. A vote for Hillary would only reward her recent atrocious behavior. I used to be a strong Hillary supporter, but I believe that I have gotten off that bus for good.

And what was she thinking when she said that McCain is qualified to be CinC? Even if it's true, and it's not, why would a potential Democratic candidate concede such an important point?
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What are the qualifications for President? Born in the USA and what, 30 or 40 yrs old at time of inauguration? McCain has that x2.

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...Lying is accepted if it furthers your political aims. In fact if you are a liberal, the news media will marvel at how skillfully you parse your words...
I don't see how anyone who lived through the Clinton administration and the first part of the Bush W administration could still believe that the news media favors "liberals." Both Clintons were constantly pounded in the press during the 90s. So was Al Gore. Meanwhile, all the propaganda put out by the Bush administration was published on the front page of the New York Times as if it were gospel. And Tim Russert is Dick Cheney's favorite Sunday morning TV host. I don't know all the reasons that Russert gives Cheney such favorable treatment. First and foremost, I suspect that Russert found that having Cheney return to his show instead of the others helps Russert's financial situation. That's the most likely explanation of his bias, although I think he also tends to lean to the right.
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...Aldultery is more common than monogamy. A large slice of our economy is built on coveting--" I gotta have_____". Taking the Lord's name in vain?--I know I hear that one broken dozens of times every day--I work in construction. The concept of a Creator who will also hold accountable His Creation is foreign to our national thinking...
but I agree with that part.
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So now that the media no longer coddles the relationship with Reverend Wright and Obama, does this mean that the Reverend's comments are no longer considered as being "Taken out of context" as was the standard answer given by Obama supporters?

Funny how these stereotypical socialists change so much with every gust of wind just to have the right answer at the right time.

What a freaking circus.

I feel bad for the taxpayers of this country regardless of which one of those three clowns get the title belt.
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Old 04-29-2008, 05:32 PM
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There was some dredged up CIA file that mentioned using some chemical agent that would make it look like Patrice Loombooya what's his name (Mobutu's predecessor) died of a local disease. Some have speculated that the CIA managed to make the AIDS virus for that purpose and that it then went way off the reservation. I mean, it IS suspected that the virus originated in the vicinity.

I don't think they had the ability to create such a thing back then, but such is the stuff that conspiracy theories turn on.
The KGB has taken credit for inventing this entire story; it has NO credibility.
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I don't see how anyone who lived through the Clinton administration and the first part of the Bush W administration could still believe that the news media favors "liberals." Both Clintons were constantly pounded in the press during the 90s.
Your definition of "pounding" must be different than mine.

yes, the media did ask some tough questions, but not until the web-media outlets forced their hand. they wanted to accept all Clinton spin. Remember, that is how Matt Drudge got his start.

There is a difference between respect for the office of the President, and shilling for the President. Since every poll of news media people I have ever read flows about 90% democrat/ liberal, I do not see how anyone could think that they were even-handed. They simply do NOT keep their opinions out of the news articles. I can accept opinions on the opinion pages, but when it filters into news with judgmental adjectives being used to flavor the news, I think that is biased reporting.

The media's job is to question everything--they fail miserably. They should be reminding everyone of inconsistencies of every politician--every time they change a position. Now the news reads more like DNC talking points. My issue is that they are not "fair and balanced", while claiming to be so.
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Barak Hussein Obama can only hope that Limbaugh will tire of Mr Wright because nothing BHO says will satisfy anybody.

If he disavows Mr Wright then he will alienate a significant number of people who had to be conviced BHO was "black enough". By disavowing Mr Write's conspiracy theories BHO becomes more like whitey. Not good.

If he fails to disavow Mr Wright then Barak Hussein Obama alienates the whites who support him because they believe he's a "magic negro" rather than the more threatening (to them) African-American man.

If BHO says he just attended Mr Right's church for social reasons then he alienates the Christians who don't like it when people use their religion for social climbing & politics (though it is probably more common than attending church for religious purposes!).

IF BHO says he agrees with Mr Write's theology and attended for sincere worship then BHO alienates traditional whitey Christians.

The best thing that can happen to Barak Hussen Obama is that time brings some other tempest in a teapot forward that engages his opponent defensively and that Mr Wright STFU.

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Perfect analysis. This is an excellent test of Obama's strategists, as it is the quintessential damned-if-you-do-damned-if-you-don't quagmire. I'm sure that they're praying that Bill is caught dry-humping another government clerk.
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Your definition of "pounding" must be different than mine.

yes, the media did ask some tough questions, but not until the web-media outlets forced their hand. they wanted to accept all Clinton spin. Remember, that is how Matt Drudge got his start.

There is a difference between respect for the office of the President, and shilling for the President. Since every poll of news media people I have ever read flows about 90% democrat/ liberal, I do not see how anyone could think that they were even-handed. They simply do NOT keep their opinions out of the news articles. I can accept opinions on the opinion pages, but when it filters into news with judgmental adjectives being used to flavor the news, I think that is biased reporting.

The media's job is to question everything--they fail miserably. They should be reminding everyone of inconsistencies of every politician--every time they change a position. Now the news reads more like DNC talking points. My issue is that they are not "fair and balanced", while claiming to be so.
Well spoken.
Reminds me of the time Bill Clinton was laughing at Ron Brown's funeral wake until he saw the camera on him, then put his head down as if he were grieving.
Funny how the media quickly brushed that one aside, just as well as they brushed the whole idea of Brown's so called tragic accident aside.
How many people involved in that case commited suicide soon afterward?
They also failed to report how the .45 cal slug hole in the top of Brown's head got there along with the lead fragments.
Same with Vince Foster's so called suicide, Hillary's document removal from foster's office, Jennifer Flowers, Huanita Broderick, Rose Lawfirm document removal, wow, the media sure worked hard to bring all that to light.
Those are just a couple small examples of the crap the media concealed for the Clinton's as best as they could.

How many secret service men and state police troopers commited "suicide" after working for the Clinton's?

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