Ben Stein makes a fool out of himself by refuting evolution and Darwinism.

Worlds most ridiculous movie! In promoting the creationist propaganda film Expelled, Ben Stein managed to stick his foot in his mouth over and over again, issuing what seemed to be a ceaseless stream of ignorant, offensive, and just plain daffy claims.

http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/08-04-17.html#part1

http://www.expelledexposed.com/

You do not find the lack of freedom of speech a bit disturbing? I thought it showed a chilling atmosphere. I always had thought that there was freedom to explore ideas within the realm of academe; guess it is a closed society.

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I haven't seen the movie, so I might be missing your point. If you are saying that the expulsion of Intelligent Design from science curricula is a restriction of free speech, then I have to disagree, because Intelligent Design is not science at all.

The thinking behind Intelligent Design is similar to the thinking behind Fox News' "Fair and Balanced" slogan. They have twisted the concept of balance to mean that the media must report both sides of every issue, no matter how silly one side may be.

This may be an overly broad statement, but I'm guessing that every Philosophy of Religion class at every university in the US discusses the teleological argument for God's existence which is the traditional name for ID arguments. The fact that this occurs by itself seems to disprove the claim that freedom of speech is being denied to ID'ers. The fact that ID is not discussed in Economics classes, or Calculus classes or Biology classes has nothing to do with a lack of freedom of speech and everything to do with the division of labor in the modern university. It's been many decades since scientists were expected to teach metaphysics.

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The people that say they were fired or discriminated against, really weren't! Read the links! Stein is a hoax! These people are hiding behind I.D. for the reason of their firings, when they were not advanced for a variety of other reasons.

Amen.

Stein's movie is a polemic; it was not represented to the "fair and balanced".

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Creationism is not science, thats why they are pushed out of REAL science classes.

Just remember that evolution is just a theory. Scientist have proved that Darwinism can not be true, they just cant get over the fact. They all say just give it time and anything can happen. Well tell me this if you put a watch that was dismantled into a paper bag and leave it be will that watch every go back together, no. Another thing from Darwinism how could we come from the ape if there are still apes living today? What Ben Stein had to say about the movie was all within his judgment.

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Clearly.

Like Michael Moore.

Easily ignored.

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Oh my. Can you point me to information on when organic evolutions as proven incorrect? I need to know.

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That is the typical response from people with no scientific understanding.

Problem 1: The watch is not alive.
Problem 2: There is nothing to put the watch back together. Lets turn that around on you: Did God make the watch in the first place or put the watch back together? no.

That is called evolution. Simply because one group branches off does not mean that the original branch cannot exist on its own.

A very limited judgment at that.

There's a more serious problem with this line. Nobody claims that we descended from apes. What is claimed is that humans and apes have a common ancestor. Clearly that ancestor is long dead.

Uh... how about BoomInTheTrunk as an example?

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So's gravity. I guess I can't complain to you when I fall down into the sky.

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