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Old 07-15-2008, 01:11 PM
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Cover what up? We all just watched it!
Uh huh...! As usual, cops ALWAYS try to blame the victim! Just as they will in this case to avoid getting their a$$ fired.

It works alot of the times... cops lying for other cops! This video should hang a few of the ba$tards.

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Old 07-15-2008, 01:14 PM
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Uh huh...! As usual, cops ALWAYS try to blame the victim! Just as they will in this case to avoid getting their a$$ fired.

It works alot of the times... cops lying for other cops! This video should hang a few of the ba$tards.
This little rant doesn't really seem to apply to the situation based on the information at hand. Just a blanket opinion doubtfully based in any experience other than a minor traffic ticket or two.
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Old 07-15-2008, 02:19 PM
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Her attorney leaked it. He got it through a standard discovery request or subpoena to the Sheriff's dept.
Is it common for the police to videotape such things these days? That's what surprised me. If they knew they were on camera, why would they act in such a way as to lose their jobs or worse?
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Old 07-15-2008, 02:32 PM
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Is it common for the police to videotape such things these days? That's what surprised me. If they knew they were on camera, why would they act in such a way as to lose their jobs or worse?
Apparently. Did you guys discuss the one where they had the woman in a holding room? They leave, turn the camera off. Next thing, she's laying in a -pool- of her own blood, they say she fell. Or the traffic maid in a golf cart twice, just harassing and grabbing a 13 year old and an art student. Or the guy gets his face shoved into the wall while he's just walking down the hallway handcuffed. Or the one where there are 5 guys holding, and beating and a dog biting a man who's already subdued and they come over and say they're arresting the guy taping, or the guy in Idaho got tased 5 or 6 times and then they did arrest the guy taping, while magically the audio doesn't work from ANY of the numerous police car videos, because he wouldn't show papers while riding his BICYCLE.

You know, there are hundreds of these on youtube, infowars.com, etc, etc. SERVANTS are not supposed to have this kind of authority in the first place. She called for help and gets carted away? Get used to it. Even MTV tries to warn people now.
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Old 07-15-2008, 02:33 PM
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Is it common for the police to videotape such things these days? That's what surprised me. If they knew they were on camera, why would they act in such a way as to lose their jobs or worse?
It is not only common place, but likely a required procedure. A 1983 atty's dream if not taped. I don't know that they will lose their jobs or worse--that tape is only a snippet. Linked to a domestic disturbance albeit the supposed victim, I doubt that woman went along peacefully with the police.
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Old 07-15-2008, 02:37 PM
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She called for help and gets carted away?
I believe someone else called on her behalf and told the dispatcher she was the victim. I have been involved in many situations where a pissed off wife called the police and made a bogus DV report, since our State started requiring mandatory 24 hrs. in jail. Not saying that is what happened here, but I still say there is very little present in that tape to pass on which to pass judgment.
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Old 07-15-2008, 02:41 PM
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^^^ Paul Harvey's never around when you need Page 2.
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Old 07-15-2008, 03:33 PM
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^^^ Paul Harvey's never around when you need Page 2.

That's right.
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Old 07-15-2008, 03:48 PM
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That search seems way too intrusive.

At best, they had probable cause to search for weapons.

Once they have her down to her panties and bra, they can adequately conduct a search for weapons.

If they have probable cause to search for drugs, then they can do a body cavity search. It doesn't sound like they had reason to suspect that she was concealing drugs.
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Old 07-15-2008, 03:54 PM
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Big ego + low I.Q. + small peni$ + small paycheck + gun , + some authority over nice people = BIG TROUBLE for everyone. Even the dumba$$ cop!
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Old 07-15-2008, 04:09 PM
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That search seems way too intrusive.

At best, they had probable cause to search for weapons.

Once they have her down to her panties and bra, they can adequately conduct a search for weapons.

If they have probable cause to search for drugs, then they can do a body cavity search. It doesn't sound like they had reason to suspect that she was concealing drugs.
She waffled on the "suicidal thoughts" question = blank check to search for items she could use to harm herself.
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Old 07-15-2008, 04:21 PM
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Big ego + low I.Q. + small peni$ + small paycheck + gun , + some authority over nice people = BIG TROUBLE for everyone. Even the dumba$$ cop!
I kind of feel the same way about those road rage types that secretly wish they were cops, and go out of their way to try to 'teach people lessons.'
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Old 07-15-2008, 04:59 PM
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She waffled on the "suicidal thoughts" question = blank check to search for items she could use to harm herself.
Agree though it's of course debatable

I just don't think it's necessary ("reasonable") to remove panties and bra to search for a weapon.

Could she possibly be hiding a weapon in her panties or bra that is undetectable while her panties and bra are on? I don't think so.

At MOST, a pat down search is sufficient when she is down to her panties and bra....even that is pushing it, imo.

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Old 07-15-2008, 05:01 PM
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Razor blade.
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Old 07-15-2008, 05:10 PM
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Razor blade.
Ink pin, pencil, shoe lace, broken glass, ect.....

Most interesting one I have seen, is a guy who got his jugular slashed in jail by another inmate who had taken a cigarette filter, peeled off the paper, and melted it into a shank (it looked like and was the same size as the blade of an exacto knife). I thought, "that must have taken years to perfect...." Until I tried it and it took me about ten minutes to draw the filter out into a blade using a lighter for heat.

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