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Old 07-22-2008, 07:58 AM
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Saudi Kids Learn the Darndest Things About Killing Jews and Gays

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Saudi Kids Learn the Darndest Things About Killing Jews and Gays




THY WILL BE DONE! King Abdullah
Saudi Arabia's making a big deal about how worldly and enlightened they are because they invited some scary Jews to their big multi-faith religious conference that starts today in Madrid. Saudi King Abdullah says he organized the anything goes faith-fest "to promote tolerance, get rid of violence, and achieve peace and security for all peoples," but you'd be better off wagering that the old guy (a 9/11 conspiracy theorist, by the way) is just doing it to make his petro-kingdom an even bigger player on the geopolitical scene than it already is.

The people at the Center for Religious Freedom are a little annoyed with all of the ridiculous, self-congratulatory garbage the Saudis are slinging about this charade, which is why they went to the Saudi Ministry of Education's website, translated the Saudi school textbooks available there, and released their findings the day before the Saudi's big event. Huge surprise—turns out the militant theocrats are actually pretty tolerant when it comes to killing Jews and gays and hating on anyone who doesn't share their puritanical form of Islam. What follows are excerpts from textbooks used by Saudi children during the 2007-2008 school year, which really illustrate the House of Saud's devotion to tolerance, peace, and interfaith understanding. It'll also help explain why a Saudi conference is being held in Spain.
1st Grade
"Fill in the blanks with the appropriate words—(Islam, hellfire)
'Every religion other than ____ is false. Whoever dies outside of Islam enters ____.'"
5th Grade
"A Muslim is forbidden to love and aid the unbelieving enemies of God...."

"Which of the following should you love in God, and which of them should you hate in God?
Example: One of your relatives who does not pray, does not fast, and does not worship God.
Answer: I hate him in God."

"Just as Muslims were successful in the past when they came together in a sincere effort to evict the Christian crusaders from Palestine, so will Muslims and Arabs emerge victorious, God willing, against the Jews and their allies if they stand together and fight a true jihad for God...."

8th Grade
"Lesson Goals: 1) The student notes some of the Jews condemnable qualities...."

"God told his Prophet, Mohammed, about the Jews, who learned from part of God's book that God alone is worthy of worship. Despite this, they espouse falsehood through idol worship, soothsaying and sorcery. In doing so, they obey the devil..."

"God told his Prophet Mohammed: say to those who cast aspersions on your religion: has anyone told you who will receive the harshest punishment from God on the Day of Resurrection? They are the Jews, whom God has cursed and with whom he is so angry that he will never again be satisfied. Some of the people of the Sabbath were punished by being turned into apes and swine. Some of them were made to worship the devil..."

"God punished the Jews in several ways for their unbelief and error. Explain the ways...."

9th Grade
"The prophet said, 'The hour [of judgment] will not come until the Muslims fight the Jews and kill them, until the Jew hides behind rocks and trees, until the rocks or the trees say, 'O Muslim! O servant of God! There is a Jew behind me. Come and kill him'...."

"(1) It is part of God's wisdom that the struggle between the Muslims and the Jews should continue until the hour of judgment. (2) The good news for Muslims is that God will help them against the Jews in the end, which is one of the signs of the hour of judgment...."

10th Grade
"Basic Elements of Zionist Faith:
The Jews are God's chosen people and the souls of the tribe of Israel are a part of God. Other souls are Satanic souls that are like the souls of animals.
The world belongs to the Israeli. It is his right to rule and he has sovereignty over the world in his capacity as God's chosen people above all humankind...."

"How the Zionists Achieve their Goals:
Sedition, ruses, and conspiracy theories throughout history.... The First World War: the Jews played a role in starting it....
Attempting to inundate peoples with vice and rampant prostitution.... They manage bars in Europe and America, as well as in Israel itself.
Gaining control over literature and the arts; spreading degenerate pornographic literature, and encouraging perverted trends in literature, thought and art.
Gaining control over the film industry in the Western world and elsewhere.
Fraud, bribery, theft, and swindles."

"Homosexuality is one of the most disgusting sins and greatest crimes.... It is a vile perversion that goes against sound nature, and is one of the most corrupting and hideous sins.... The punishment for homosexuality is death. Both the active and passive participants are to be killed whether or not they have previously had sexual intercourse in the context of a legal marriage.... Some of the companions of the Prophet stated that [the perpetrator] is to be burned with fire. It has also been said that he should be stoned, or thrown from a high place."

11th Grade
"The Prophet said, 'Do not greet Jews and Christians with the words 'Peace be upon you.' If you come upon one of them on the road, force him to the narrower part.'"

By Nick Curran 07/16/08 10:30 AM
File Under: Foreign Affairs, Jews, King Abdullah, Muslims, Politics, Saudi Arabia

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So do you REALLY think that some of these fundamental christian factions are much different?

Answer: No!

Tolerance of other religions or gays? You know better...
They have ZERO TOLERANCE!
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So do you REALLY think that some of these fundamental christian factions are much different?

Answer: No!

Tolerance of other religions or gays? You know better...
They have ZERO TOLERANCE!

The difference is that fundamental Christians do not put their views into public school textbooks...

They also do not have the ability to make the Bible the law of the land...

WE have religious freedom here, they do not. If you were to write your post above about Islam in Saudi Arabia youwould hava had your door broken down already and you would be before the religious court for heresy or even worse apostacy!
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The difference is that fundamental Christians do not put their views into public school textbooks...

They also do not have the ability to make the Bible the law of the land...

WE have religious freedom here, they do not. If you were to write your post above about Islam in Saudi Arabia youwould hava had your door broken down already and you would be before the religious court for heresy or even worse apostacy!
I have seen that religious fundamentalists ARE indeed trying to get ID included into public school books! Hasn't happened yet... Hope it doesn't! Religion doesn't belong in public schools!

Haven't you seen the ridiculous ID movie "Expelled" with that non-expert Ben Stein as host? Great comedy!
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I have seen that religious fundamentalists ARE indeed trying to get ID included into public school books! Hasn't happened yet... Hope it doesn't! Religion doesn't belong in public schools!

Haven't you seen the ridiculous ID movie "Expelled" with that non-expert Ben Stein as host? Great comedy!
Big, big, big difference between making Intelligent Design part of the discussion AND teaching children to hate and want to kill those who hold different religious beliefs.

I think that discussing alternative views of how the world (and us) came to be helps to expand a student's mind. There is nothing more challenging, and stimulating, than putting one's beliefs and ideas to the test of fire.

On the other hand, there is nothing that impoverishes the mind more than subjecting it to blind and unchallenged dogma. And there is nothing that diminishes a man's soul more than being taught, from an early age, to hate and want to kill those who are different or those who hold differnet beliefs.

As an elementary school student in Cuba during the early years of the "revolution" I too was exposed to the same kind of mindless governmental indoctrination. I remember math textbooks with math problems along these lines:

"If a Vietnamese hero shoots down two murderous American pilots in one day and three murderous American pilots the second day (and so on). How many American assassins does the Vietnamese hero shoots on an average over a (pick a number) day period?"
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Big, big, big difference between making Intelligent Design part of the discussion AND teaching children to hate and want to kill those who hold different religious beliefs.

I think that discussing alternative views of how the world (and us) came to be helps to expand a student's mind. There is nothing more challenging, and stimulating, than putting one's beliefs and ideas to the test of fire.

On the other hand, there is nothing that impoverishes the mind more than subjecting it to blind and unchallenged dogma. And there is nothing that diminishes a man's soul more than being taught, from an early age, to hate and want to kill those who are different or those who hold differnet beliefs.

As an elementary school student in Cuba during the early years of the "revolution" I too was exposed to the same kind of mindless governmental indoctrination. I remember math textbooks that would have math problems along these lines:

"If a Vietnamese hero shoots down two murderous American pilots in one day and three murderous American pilots the second day (and so on). How many American assassins does the Vietnamese hero shoots on an average over a (pick a number) day period?"
Hate is hate my friend.

Most if not ALL of fundamental christian factions teach AND believe that EVERYONE but their own group is wrong and GOING TO BURN IN HELL!
They also see gays as an absolute abomination against mankind, that's hate!

Like I stated ZERO TOLERANCE!
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Hate is hate my friend.

Most if not ALL of fundamental christian factions teach AND believe that EVERYONE but their own group is wrong and GOING TO BURN IN HELL!
They also see gays as an absolute abomination against mankind, that's hate!

Like I stated ZERO TOLERANCE!

Yes nut the difference is that these are NOT the state religion. Let them preach and moan and write pamphlets and even get on shortwave radio -- It does NOT affect me at all.

Let them take control of the government and decree that only their particular fatih is allowed and everybody else is non-human and fit to be "shoved to the narrow side of the road" and then I will agree with you.

Until then, there will always be crackpots and crackpot religions.

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