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Old 07-23-2008, 01:15 PM
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Perhaps we have something here for the “Things you don’t see anymore thread.”

Jobs/Careers that last to retirement age. Or people staying with them that long.

Anyone working for the same company for 30+ years like many did in the 40’s and 50’s? A few, sure. But not like folks could/did in the past.

I think the “Gold Watch and a Pension” days are fading fast.
In September I'll be at my present job 18 years, 20 in the industry. Hatt's right we don't have the whole story and I'll just bet there was a boat load of credit card debt. In any event that couple needs an abacus.

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Old 07-23-2008, 01:32 PM
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“Completely prepared” perhaps not.

I agree with you, and Howitzer. I see what you are saying.

But there certainly are plenty of things that most people can do (or not do) to help cushion the blow of a job loss that they simply are not doing.

Living a life style they couldn't afford to begin with is where most of it all starts.

(But, we’ve certainly been over that one before in other threads, and I have no intention of rehashing it all here.)

Glad were in agreement, like Kerry said good folks are losing their jobs and its taking a long time to find other work. I have done a 180 regarding debt in the last couple years, money was growing on tree's and everything was good but now the axe has swung and I'm at ground zero of trying to help people out and people are in hell's bell's with nowhere to go....except coincidentally Dallas in the case I described.
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Old 07-23-2008, 02:22 PM
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In September I'll be at my present job 18 years, 20 in the industry. Hatt's right we don't have the whole story and I'll just bet there was a boat load of credit card debt. In any event that couple needs an abacus.
If anything there is stupidity on the perps part, to qualify for the FHA they must have conservitive debt ratios and decent credit, they may have piled on debt after they bought the home but they should have done something about the unsecured debt. In most cases they can buy a new home 2-3 years out of bankruptcy and foreclosure but the part they don't know is the owe uncle sam the insured part of the mortgage.....forever if I am not mistaken.
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Old 07-23-2008, 06:49 PM
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In September I'll be at my present job 18 years, 20 in the industry.
You are an exception.
But then… We always knew you were exceptional.

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Old 07-23-2008, 07:22 PM
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Here in Michigan the most common story is job loss, engineers and white collar folks are getting whacked on a daily basis. It usually starts with the termination, they look for local work at month one, month 2 they look out of state, months 3-6 they find a job out of state. At that point their resources are depleted and can't sell their home the only wise financial choice they can make is file bankruptcy and let their home foreclose, how can a salaried 45-50ish person make up for a loss like that?

I used to think like many people on this forum about people and their debt and its easy to say how stupid and bad they are for walking on their debt, just hope you are never in that situation.
Well thats a different type of forclosure. Sudden death an illness are very sad stories to. I know of one where the husband in his 50's died suddenly, and they lost their dream house. In another their kid got sick, and insurance only covered so much. They had to choose between heating oil and eating.
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Old 07-23-2008, 07:25 PM
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Perhaps we have something here for the “Things you don’t see anymore thread.”

Jobs/Careers that last to retirement age. Or people staying with them that long.

Anyone working for the same company for 30+ years like many did in the 40’s and 50’s? A few, sure. But not like folks could/did in the past.

I think the “Gold Watch and a Pension” days are fading fast.
Yep, thats why my engineer friend who is my age is currantly buying real estate. Its not will you get laid off, its when.

I'd say 6 months emergancy fund plus other streams of income.
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Old 07-23-2008, 07:29 PM
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…or two new cars with 60 month notes every 36 months.

This list could go on forever….
Oh that drives me up the wall! My cousin is on the new car kick, she is all about monthly payments. I was like insted of messing around with this BS why not just buy a new Civic and keep it for 10 years? She was like oh no I need a reliable new car.

Now she wants to buy a house, but can't really afford much because of the $500 a month Saab payment.
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Old 07-24-2008, 11:10 AM
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I think part of the cause of the foreclosure problem is TV shows like 'This Old House'. These shows display home renovations that cost tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars to houses which are functional to begin with. People begin to think it's 'normal' to spend this kind of money on the renovation of a functional home. To get the money, people cash in on the equity in their homes, putting them in a dangerous situation should financial problems arise.
Prior to these kinds of shows, I think people would have been far more likely to accept an old but functional home as adequate and not get themselves into debt in order to have a newly renovated home.
It also causes difficulty when trying to sell older but functional homes, like the people in question in this thread. They feel pressure to 'update' the house in order to sell it, putting themselves at risk. Buyers are less likely to be looking for a older functional home and more likely to purchase the newest updated home. Good for Home Depot, Lowes, and the credit card and mortgage industries but not necessarily very good for the individual homeowner. It takes more self-discipline now to accept that older functional home.
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Old 07-24-2008, 11:24 AM
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Glad were in agreement, like Kerry said good folks are losing their jobs and its taking a long time to find other work. I have done a 180 regarding debt in the last couple years, money was growing on tree's and everything was good but now the axe has swung and I'm at ground zero of trying to help people out and people are in hell's bell's with nowhere to go....except coincidentally Dallas in the case I described.
It's definitely different when you see it first hand. You're privy to a lot more financial details than most of us.

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