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Old 07-24-2008, 12:36 PM
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Confusing it with Philadelphia?
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Old 07-24-2008, 01:33 PM
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Confusing it with Philadelphia?
Yea, don't try and give away that title. Philly has a homicide a day trying to hang on to that name.


Nathan Ballard, a spokesman for San Francisco's mayor, said city officials were wrong to shield undocumented, juvenile felons from federal immigration authorities.

"The sanctuary program was never intended to shield felons," Ballard said. "The policy was inappropriate."

However, Newsom "still supports the worthwhile aims of denying the federal government" assistance in deporting otherwise law-abiding undocumented residents, he said.

Maybe Congress should recondsider how worthwile it is to send "assistance" ($$) to SF.
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Old 07-24-2008, 01:37 PM
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Nobody ever accused CA people of being sensible.
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"On Wednesday, Ramos pleaded not guilty to three counts of murder in the deaths of Anthony Bologna, 49, and his sons, Michael, 20, and Matthew, 16. Bologna and his older son died in the intersection on June 22. His younger son succumbed to his injuries days later.
Shortly after that, police arrested Ramos, a native of El Salvador and reputed member of the Mara Salvatrucha gang, known as MS-13. Investigators believe he was the gunman, though two other men were seen in the car with him."

He was also arrested in March on a gun charge that the SFPD dropped.

Somebody should put this animal down
'The heinousness of the deaths has put pressure on San Francisco District Attorney Kamala Harris to seek the death penalty against Ramos. Harris, who campaigned on an anti-death penalty platform and has never pursued capital punishment during her more than four years in office, has declined to say exactly how she intends to proceed.
"This case has been charged as a special circumstance case," making it eligible for the death penalty, spokeswoman Erica Derryck said. "No additional announcement has been made about this aspect of the charging."'
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Old 07-24-2008, 03:58 PM
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As a recent San Francisco refugee, this did not surprise me, particularly..

The whole sanctuary thing is ridiculous. A lot of PC posturing....

There has been a lot of trouble with Juvenile SF illegal alien gangbangers escaping from Juvenile detention centers too.

Maybe it took something as horrible as this to fix it. All the politicians and city officials are pointing fingers and making excuses.


The SPFD Gang Task force should have caught this. The perp is a member of the murderous MS 13, one of the worst criminal street gangs in the world.

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Mara Salvatrucha refers to large gangs in Central America and the United States. The gang names are commonly abbreviated as MS, Mara, and MS-13, and are composed mostly of Salvadorans, Guatemalans, Hondurans, and other Central Americans. The Mara Salvatrucha gangs have cliques, or factions, located throughout the United States and Latin America.

The gang has moved beyond its Salvadoran and American origins and now can be found in other nations, including Canada, Mexico, Guatemala, Colombia, Spain, Great Britain and Germany, according to international press on criminal activity. Membership in the United States was believed to be as many as 10,000 as of 2005....

The gang is known for its street graffiti, which is used to depict their presence on certain blocks and also sometimes provides clues to their forthcoming crimes, including murder, robbery, narcotics, and especially as a prediction of retaliatory violence.

Former gang member Brenda Paz said that MS is well structured, with multiple leaders, and that the gang's goal is to become the top gang in the United States.


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The leniency of US authorities in dealing with them, incredibly, has made El Salvador itself,where they are from, a more terrible and dangerous place than it ever was, because of those of them that came back to El Salvador, or who were deported there, after a dose of American (so called) "justice".

They should have been executed without a trial and the bodies hung on a lamp posts for a few days; it is the only language they understand.
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The whole sanctuary thing is ridiculous. A lot of PC posturing....

Maybe it took something as horrible as this to fix it. All the politicians and city officials are pointing fingers and making excuses.
Something CA and definitely SF is responsible for. If we could figure a way to export PC, we can solve the deficit and soon the national debt.

Doubtful. They'd just blame the guns and the idea that he had a bad childhood, blah, blah, blah and move on.
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Something CA and definitely SF is responsible for. If we could figure a way to export PC, we can solve the deficit and soon the national debt.

Doubtful. They'd just blame the guns and the idea that he had a bad childhood, blah, blah, blah and move on.
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I remember what my old instructor used to say.

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I remember what my old instructor used to say.

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Its from a Chinese saying, not sure if Sun Tzu, Confusses or other.
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Couldn't have happened in a better place. They have a sanctuary law and it has come to bite them in the ass. Can't say I feel sorry.
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Couldn't have happened in a better place. They have a sanctuary law and it has come to bite them in the ass. Can't say I feel sorry.
Vatican's been doing it for years...
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Old 07-25-2008, 11:23 AM
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Vatican's been doing it for years...
They do it for their own too so as far as I am concerned, they are a crooked organization. Should something bad happen to them, I won't shed a tear. A chuckle, maybe.
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Couldn't have happened in a better place. They have a sanctuary law and it has come to bite them in the ass. Can't say I feel sorry.
I agree!!!


But it was not "politically correct" to utter that out loud if you lived in San Francisco, at least 3 years ago when I last did
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I agree!!!


But it was not "politically correct" to utter that out loud if you lived in San Francisco, at least 3 years ago when I last did
I think I said it before, too bad we can't sell PC or we'd be so rich from SF's sales the streets would be lined with gold. Wonder how that guy's family feels about illegals in CA being sheltered now. The topping on the cake would be if they had been for it then.

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