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Old 08-09-2008, 11:42 PM
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Alleged don't mean squat and you know that.

IF it were true, why does he get more slack?

IOW, he got tired of his wife and left. Nothing wrong there.
It means major squat. There are records of his obtaining a marriage license before his devorce was final, he's admitted to adultery with other women, and he married Cindy ONE MONTH after his divorce, this after having known her for a year.

Oh yeah, I'm just certain they waited until they walked down the aisle to consummate.

I give him more slack cuz 5 years in POW camp could really change a person.

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they're all slime

"wife has cancer = MY time to screw around (it's all about ME, get it?????). this is a special type of low life. spouse gets sick, hey, it's my chance to play the field,"

So is this Edwards and / or Gingrich. Both I think.

From what I remember Newt was criticizing Clinton, screwing around on the side himself, his wife just finds out she has cancer, and he dumps her for the affair chick. I'm sure if each politician was investigated as much as Clinton, Edwards, Garry Hart..... we would find even more cases.

So my main thoughts are... everyone is fallible. Judge them on their job. Most of them have done a crappy job as well as being a slime ball. This them vs. us is killing the ability to find positive solutions for our issues. Once elected they should be in the "American" party.
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I've been thinking about Edwards over the last 24 hours and I cannot figure out one little tidbit:

Why come forth now? You've managed to keep this under the rug for more than two years..........after the Enquirer had it all over the front page........and you've been reasonably successful at doing so.

Do you suddenly get a catharsis and have to offer up yourself to the country because you can't keep in inside any longer?

It's probably more likely that the mainstream press was going to run with it..........but, even if they did.........he could just remain in denial and there would be no conclusive proof unless the woman divulged the goods. He'd be in a better position with plausable denial than he would with an admission.
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Old 08-10-2008, 10:02 AM
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It means major squat. There are records of his obtaining a marriage license before his devorce was final, he's admitted to adultery with other women, and he married Cindy ONE MONTH after his divorce, this after having known her for a year.

I give him more slack cuz 5 years in POW camp could really change a person.
Did he fool around before he filed for divorce? IMO, when you file for divorce, you are saying you call it quits. Because of the "cooling off period" they give, you are technically married but the relationship is done. Now, if you have the affair BEFORE you file for divorce, you are saying that you are playing both sides against the middle.

Too bad for him. I don't give a rip about his 5 yrs when it comes to this.
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So my main thoughts are... everyone is fallible. Judge them on their job. Most of them have done a crappy job as well as being a slime ball. This them vs. us is killing the ability to find positive solutions for our issues. Once elected they should be in the "American" party.
But it begs the question. If they can screw their wife over, can they do the same for us?
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Old 08-10-2008, 10:14 AM
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I've been thinking about Edwards over the last 24 hours and I cannot figure out one little tidbit:

Why come forth now? You've managed to keep this under the rug for more than two years..........after the Enquirer had it all over the front page........and you've been reasonably successful at doing so.

Do you suddenly get a catharsis and have to offer up yourself to the country because you can't keep in inside any longer?

It's probably more likely that the mainstream press was going to run with it..........but, even if they did.........he could just remain in denial and there would be no conclusive proof unless the woman divulged the goods. He'd be in a better position with plausable denial than he would with an admission.
I don't know why politicians (not just Edwards) don't simply say, MYOB. Their private affairs (in every sense of the word) are their own.

Unless they run on the "family values" plank, like Newt did. Then it's fair to dig and pry, IMO.

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Old 08-10-2008, 10:39 AM
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I don't know why politicians (not just Edwards) don't simply say, MYOB. Their private affairs (in every sense of the word) are their own.

Unless they run on the "family values" plank, like Newt did. Then it's fair to dig and pry, IMO.

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It comes up because it shows the character of the person they are electing. Like I said, if you will cheat on your wife, can I believe you will not cheat on me and do something stupid in office?
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Old 08-10-2008, 11:20 AM
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I've been thinking about Edwards over the last 24 hours and I cannot figure out one little tidbit:

Why come forth now? You've managed to keep this under the rug for more than two years..........after the Enquirer had it all over the front page........and you've been reasonably successful at doing so.

Do you suddenly get a catharsis and have to offer up yourself to the country because you can't keep in inside any longer?

It's probably more likely that the mainstream press was going to run with it..........but, even if they did.........he could just remain in denial and there would be no conclusive proof unless the woman divulged the goods. He'd be in a better position with plausable denial than he would with an admission.

Listening to the Editor of NI on TV, they have been following the flow of money, whose been paying for the woman's pad and expenses, etc. I think, with the noose tightnening around his neck, after bold face lying about it, this was all he could do, and have any control over.
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Listening to the Editor of NI on TV, they have been following the flow of money, whose been paying for the woman's pad and expenses, etc. I think, with the noose tightnening around his neck, after bold face lying about it, this was all he could do, and have any control over.
When your goose is cooked, try to put some seasoning you like on it!

Yep, that's the question.........was his goose cooked?

They certainly couldn't prove anything simply because he was in a given hotel at midnight.

How can the press follow the flow of money...........that's a scary thought??
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I don't know why politicians (not just Edwards) don't simply say, MYOB. Their private affairs (in every sense of the word) are their own.

Unless they run on the "family values" plank, like Newt did. Then it's fair to dig and pry, IMO.
Some of these guys get stuck in exhibitionist mode perhaps.
Sort of like they're hooked on the drama of living their life in public.
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It comes up because it shows the character of the person they are electing. Like I said, if you will cheat on your wife, can I believe you will not cheat on me and do something stupid in office?
This is why MYOB is important. "Cheating" is such a loaded word. What if they had a marriage that avails itself of extracurricular activity and they are both okay with that? I don't wanna know.

Whatever the relationship, Mrs Edwards seems to have been okay with it.

It's MYOB time.

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By the criterion of absolute marital fidelity, Thomas Jefferson was unfit for office.

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This is why MYOB is important. "Cheating" is such a loaded word. What if they had a marriage that avails itself of extracurricular activity and they are both okay with that? I don't wanna know.

Whatever the relationship, Mrs Edwards seems to have been okay with it.

It's MYOB time.

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How many swingers do you know in public office?

Like Mrs Clinton?

Well, if it was Joe Blow the neighbor, I agree. However, that is not who we are talking about, is it? It is our business to know if the guy we are voting in has a history of being untrustworthy, is it not?
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Nobody is saying that they are unfit for office. However, that a person can cheat on his wife makes me wonder what they can do in office. So, if we have a cheater on one hand and a non-cheater on the other, well, it will weigh heavily on the decision as to who I vote for. It is by no means the only factor but it is a factor.
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How many swingers do you know in public office?

Like Mrs Clinton?

Well, if it was Joe Blow the neighbor, I agree. However, that is not who we are talking about, is it? It is our business to know if the guy we are voting in has a history of being untrustworthy, is it not?
If he has a history of untrustworthiness, that's a problem. But apparently Mrs Edwards didn't or doesn't have a problem.

So maybe they have an arrangement.

If they have an arrangement, is it still untrustworthiness?

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