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and we are surprised by this because?
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Olympic update, the much vaunted US basketball team lost to unheralded South Africa yesterday, so much for NBA and world champs. These are one spoiled batch of underachievers who lost last time as well. They behave like spoilt brats and primma donnas and yet when the real world championship comes, they just cant' deliver. OTOH, Micheal Phelps and US swim team, way to go.........now thats solid performance.
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Pack Journalism can be Lethal
Instead of checking facts, the media prefer to follow what others are saying by Gregory Clark (former Canadian ambassador to Japan) Global Research, April 10, 2006 Japan Times Some call it pack journalism. It is also lazy journalism. Instead of checking facts, the media prefer to follow what others are saying. And what others are saying is often inspired by establishment hardliners seeking to impose their agendas with the help of bogus news agencies, subsidized research outfits and hired scribblers. Beijing is a frequent victim. One example is the pack journalistic myth of a Tiananmen Square massacre of students in 1989. All one needs to do to get the true story is insert "Tiananmen" into Google and read the reports at the time from none other than the U.S. Embassy in Beijing. You will discover that the so-called massacre was in fact a mini civil war as irate Beijing citizens sought to stop initially unarmed soldiers sent to remove students who had been demonstrating freely in the square for weeks. When the soldiers finally reached the square there was no massacre. There were in fact almost no students. As a researcher in 1989 for Human Rights Watch in Beijing, Robin Munro witnessed first hand the weeks of pro-democracy demonstrations in the city "I arrived at Tiananmen Square just after 1:00 a.m. on June Fourth. ... . . Then one of them proposed a vote. ... A voice vote was taken, and ... we couldn't actually make out which of the shouts was louder, but it didn't matter, because the guy with the microphone announced that the democratic decision had been to evacuate, and sure enough, within a few minutes, people started getting up off the monument. They ... started filing out. The column was about five, six, seven people across, gradually formed, and they began walking away from the square. ... I'll never forget those faces, those young people's faces. They were walking out with their heads held high. They'd finessed their retreat from the square so well. They'd performed so bravely, and finally ... they'd made the right decision. There would have been no point in staying there. Everybody would have been killed. ... ... The students' decision to peacefully evacuate the square minutes before the final assault was definitely going to come, was a triumph of rationality over violence. It was a triumph of political wisdom and sanity over what was, on the government's side, panic, fear, cowardice in mobilizing an army against an unarmed citizenry. ... The future prevailed in the sense of those students who walked out of the square and said: "We've made our point. OK, you have the tanks. We're not going to let you kill us pointlessly." The theater of the massacre was, by and large, elsewhere. It was the rest of the city, and that was where the Beijing citizens fought and died to protect their students, and also to protect the sense of civic pride and consciousness they themselves had developed in those crucial few weeks leading up to that. ... Reports in the week after June Fourth stated that troops had assaulted the monument about 4:30 a.m. and massacred all the students on the monument, saying that thousands of students had been shot down in cold blood. That didn't happen, and had it happened, I wouldn't be here today -- as simple as that” The irrational hate and racism of some of the posters here is pathetic. Alex |
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I'm not quite sure what the point of the article is? To deny that massacres occurred? To cleanse them of any opprobrium because they did not occur in the square itself?
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The point of the article is that perhaps you shouldn't wrap your head so tightly with the flag that you can't see other possibilities beside what your "official" news media presents you. Those are eyewitnesses who were right there on that day/night when the alleged massacre happened. As a matter of fact, I also read another eyewitnesses' account who said that the first soldiers in were unarmed and some of their trucks were overturned and some them were murdered by the crowd.
But reading your posts in other threads I know you are hopelessly close minded, so keep watching American TV and keep believing everything you see there. Alex |
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Media is always a manipulating tool and an active propaganda tool as well. It has to be taken with generous dose of salt, no matter what or where the source is from. No journalist or news media is non partisan or neutral. Everyone serves a cause and agenda, pretenses aside.
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But heck, it's a lot of fun to blame the general depravity of mankind on The Media.
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Dont' worry, they are still in contention as they beat out Greece. All hail superhero Phelps, without him US would only have 8 golds compared to China's whopping 23.
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Why would I worry about a game that wasn't played in these Olympics?
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Basketball is very much a part of Beijing 2008.
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No kidding, I thought Kobe and the boys were just checkin' out the Games.
I suppose my "Ignore" list is going to be +1 now. |
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