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Old 11-26-2008, 07:09 PM
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Wave of Terror Attacks Strikes India's Mumbai

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,457885,00.html

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Old 11-28-2008, 10:40 AM
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Interesting development

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Pakistani intelligence chief to visit India
By Salman Masood
Friday, November 28, 2008

ISLAMABAD: The chief of Pakistan's powerful intelligence organization will make an extraordinary visit to India to assist in the investigation of the Mumbai attacks, Pakistani officials said Friday.

The decision to send Lieutenant General Ahmed Shuja Pasha, the director general of Inter-Services Intelligence, or ISI, will mark the first time an ISI chief will visit rival India. It was not immediately clear, however, when Pasha would leave for India.

The move is being seen as an attempt by Pakistan's civilian government to allay Indian concerns after accusations of Pakistani involvement in the attacks surfaced almost immediately.

In a televised speech Thursday, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh of India blamed forces "based outside this country" of involvement in the attacks. A day later, India's foreign minister, Pranab Mukherjee, was quoted by the Press Trust of India as saying that, according to preliminary reports, "some elements in Pakistan are responsible."

India and Pakistan, which have fought two wars, have repeatedly accused each other of fomenting unrest. While India has accused the ISI of abetting terrorism in the disputed Himalayan region of Kashmir, Pakistan has accused India of supporting an insurgency in southwestern Baluchistan Province.

Distrust and acrimony between the two nuclear powers has hampered efforts toward normalizing relations. The Mumbai attacks, which killed more than 140 people, fueled apprehension that relations would between the two neighbors would plunge to a new low.

Pakistani officials said the decision to send General Pasha to India was reached during a conversation between the prime ministers of both countries Friday.

"Prime Minister Syed Yousaf Raza Gilani called the Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh Friday morning at 11 a.m. to condemn the attacks," Zahid Bashir, Gilani's spokesperson, said by telephone.

"The Indian prime minister stressed the need of intelligence sharing and evolving a joint strategy to counter terrorism. Dr. Singh requested the prime minister to send the D.G. ISI to India to help in the investigations," Bashir said.

"Once the modalities are worked out, the ISI chief will leave for India," Bashir said.

Officials here said President Asif Ali Zardari also called Singh to promise cooperation "in exposing and apprehending the culprits and the master minds behind the attack," according to a presidential spokesperson.

Zardari said both countries should avoid being manipulated by militants.

Pasha was appointed the head of ISI in September by the army chief General Ashfaq Pervaiz Kayani. He previously served as the director general military operations for the Pakistani Army.

Pakistani analysts saw the move as an attempt by the government to placate Indian concerns at a time when its military is engaged in an effort to root out militancy in the semiautonomous tribal areas that straddle the border with Afghanistan.

"Sending the ISI chief to India is a clear olive branch from Pakistan and indicates just how seriously it is taking India's anger," said Cyril Almeida, an editor at Dawn, the country's most prestigious English daily.

"It is an extraordinary step and indicates two things: One, the Pakistan military is confident that no direct links will be revealed by India; and, two, Pakistan is keen to avoid a repeat of the near-war situation following the attacks on the Indian Parliament in December 2001," Almeida said.

"It seems the military and civilian government have realized that we have too much on our plate dealing with the tribal areas and terrorism in Pakistan proper to get involved in a dangerous slanging match with India over terrorism."
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I like how initially the news tried to blame Al Qaeda, then the experts came in too strong and shot that down. Look for a Pakistani invasion, as the lord and savior has been calling for, in the coming months.
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Old 11-28-2008, 05:05 PM
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Notice anything interesting about the Rueters' description of events in Mumbai? (Clipped from Al Jazeera's website)

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100 hostages freed from Mumbai hotel
(Reuters)

Hotel guests are evacuated from the besieged Trident-Oberoi Hotel in Mumbai

About 100 people have emerged from Mumbai's Trident-Oberoi hotel which was earlier taken over by militants.

About 100 people, many of them foreigners, have emerged from Mumbai's Trident-Oberoi hotel which was earlier taken over by militants.

The police forces and army commandos freed the hostages after gunmen stormed the building nearly 36 hours ago.

Meanwhile, media reports indicate that Indian security forces are still trying to complete their operation to flush out militants holed up in Mumbai's Taj Mahal hotel. Sound of heavy explosions and gun battle can be heard in the city.

Indian commandos are still battling to regain full control of the two luxury hotels and a Jewish center in Mumbai after coordinated attacks by armed militants.

About 100 commandos are going inside Nariman House for the final stages of the operation where militants are holding at least 10 Israelis. There have been three explosions at Nariman House and helicopters are circling above the building.

At least a dozen gunmen are still holding up at the three sites after a series of devastating attacks in the city. Gunmen targeted several sites across port city of Mumbai late Wednesday, killing 125 people and injuring 327 others.
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Terrorists used hijacked vessel

Praveen Swami

MUMBAI: Even as special forces continued to battle the terrorists, investigators have been working to piece together the sequence of events that led up to the massacre that started on Wednesday night.

Based on the continuing interrogation of arrested Lashkar terrorist Ajmal Amir Kamal, investigators believe the 12 terrorists who left Karachi on a merchant ship hijacked a fishing boat to facilitate their final assault on Mumbai.

According to Kamal, the group hijacked the Porbandar-registered Kuber to avoid detection by Indian Navy and Coast Guard patrols, which had a considerable presence in off Mumbai.

While one group of terrorists used the hijacked boat to land at Sassoon Docks on the eastern coast of Mumbai, a second group used a fibreglass lifeboat to row west to the Cuffe Parade fisherman’s colony.

Before leaving the fishing boat, the terrorists beheaded its captain, who Gujarat authorities have identified as Balwant Tandel, from Una village in the Union Territory of Diu. There is no word on the fate of the remaining crew of five.
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There is something so stinkin' fishy about this entire adventure ....
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Old 11-28-2008, 06:01 PM
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I agree
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Old 11-28-2008, 07:11 PM
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If stuff like this keeps happening Rainbow 6 will become a reality......but private firms will be contracted by major hotels, amusement parks ect...its a wild world.
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If stuff like this keeps happening Rainbow 6 will become a reality......but private firms will be contracted by major hotels, amusement parks ect...its a wild world.
Tom Clancy did get the Georgia conflict right... Almost like, I dunno, he's an insider or something?
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Within next six months there will be war, retaliation time has come and not too soon. What the NSG commandos did was pretty much Rainbow 6 situation, they went in the dark and had to save the hostages and respond to the indiscriminate firing and grenades.
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There's been plenty of talk of this coming, and sadly, it might be a reality. Despite the fact that Pak and India hate each other, now we are getting involved and probably exacerbating the whole scenario. It's amazing how you can watch the events that lead up to things like this while the media makes it seem so dramatic...
It also doesn't help that Obama has been calling on going into Pakistan this whole time.
I sincerely hope that this doesn't escalate because it WILL be bad.
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I saw that Israel was sending a hostage rescue team to help in rescuing hostages in the Jewish community center.

Seems odd that India would allow another county's operators in to do what presumable should be handled by India.

I couldn't imaging the US allowing Israelis or anyone else for that matter coming here and being involved in rescuing any hostages.


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I saw that Israel was sending a hostage rescue team to help in rescuing hostages in the Jewish community center.

Seems odd that India would allow another county's operators in to do what presumable should be handled by India.

I couldn't imaging the US allowing Israelis or anyone else for that matter coming here and being involved in rescuing any hostages.


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It's more of a talent thing, Israel has phenomenal hostage rescue teams. Also counter-terrorist groups operate a bit differently than conventional forces its not uncommon to work with foreign CT's, it more of the norm now.
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Everyone in the Jewish center was killed.
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Everyone in the Jewish center was killed.
Except the young son of the rabbi and his wife and whoever rescued the kid.

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