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LaRondo · #76 01-17-2009, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Vronsky

..yeah, it's all Bush' fault.

The name tag will be swapped out in just a few days.

mwood · #77 01-17-2009, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by RichC

Another case of you not knowing what your talking about before you act all smug and superrior.

Even tho I am considered %100 disabled by the doctors at social security, I am allowed
by their laws to work for money up to a limit set by them.

And that is what I do.

I am still working, and doing as much as I can, despite my handicapps.
And I have to listen to people like you telling me I am commiting fraud.

You have no idea what your talking about.
And you owe me an apology for saying I am commiting fraud.

What do you want.
You complain that I work, and that I dont work.
You tell me I recieve welfare when I do not.

You are wrong on every count, and even countradict yourself.

Get off the personal comments about me, OK ?

First of all it was a question.
I didn't complain about your status one way or another.
Lighten up Francis!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6cxNR9ML8k

Jorn · #78 01-17-2009, 02:11 AM

uuuuwwww......

RichC · #79 01-17-2009, 05:32 AM

Failure to comunkate

ImBroke · #80 01-17-2009, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by RichC

I still work. So do I

Why do you have to try and make this a personal argument. Because you don't know what you're talking about, and making yourself look uninformed

You worked for the military and got paid from my taxes. Yes I did
You recieve a pension that you never personally paid into that came from my tax money. True, I don't remember paying into it

I have run several different business and am still working at one. that's good for you.
I paid into social security, and now I get my social security back.I paid into it as well, and here's what you don't get. They did take Social Security payments out of our checks. What is so hard to understand about that?

You have been sucking off my teet for many years, and you call me a welfare bum.More like I've been sent to war 2 times, so you or your family wouldn't have to go, because I love this country, and will protect your right to bash us pubicly. I have never called you a welfare bum. To me, a welfare bum is a person that refuses to even try to work, but would rather sit home (public housing preferred) and collect checks.

I paid for your salary, and your retirement.It's funnyk, I actually partially paid for a part of my salary when you think about it, they taxed us fed, state, and SS.
And I was forced to do it aginst my will.you can leave the country

You paid nothing into my social security, not one red cent.bullpuckey.. Oh, btw, I pay taxes on my retirement also
But you have recieved my money.and will continue to do so til either I die or you move out of the country

There is no way to deny any of this.yes there is, I can dig up statements to the fact that I did pay'

Sorry LaRondo, I must have missed something. I explained my screen name elsewhere on the board. I contribute elsewhere besides just OD.

RichC · #81 01-17-2009, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Howitzer

Lol.

You keep bugging me about not working,
and saying I recieve welfare.
You gripe about socialism and extole the virtues of capitolism.

When the facts are, I am working, and you are not.
You are receiving a pension from the government, I am receiving social security.

You have spent your entire career working in a social program, ie the military.
Receiving all sorts of benifits like health care, food, housing, that I did not have.
And you can still go to the VA, which is a social program.
And people like me were forced to pay for all of your stuff.
And we continue to pay.
I never wanted anyone fighting any wars for me,
and you did not secure my freedom of speech.

You chose your line of work just like anyone else.
You chose war, I chose psychology, and computer tech.

Your entire life has revolved around social programs.
And you praise capitolism.

Can you see the irony of you talking down social programs, and worshiping capitolism ?

Good grief, quit trying to put me down, and think a little bit....

Medmech · #82 01-17-2009, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by RichC

You keep bugging me about not working,
and saying I recieve welfare.
You gripe about socialism and extole the virtues of capitolism.

When the facts are, I am working, and you are not.
You are receiving a pension from the government, I am receiving social security.

You have spent your entire career working in a social program, ie the military.
Receiving all sorts of benifits like health care, food, housing, that I did not have.
And you can still go to the VA, which is a social program.
And people like me were forced to pay for all of your stuff.
And we continue to pay.
I never wanted anyone fighting any wars for me,
and you did not secure my freedom of speech.

You chose your line of work just like anyone else.
You chose war, I chose psychology, and computer tech.

Your entire life has revolved around social programs.
And you praise capitolism.

Can you see the irony of you talking down social programs, and worshiping capitolism ?

Good grief, quit trying to put me down, and think a little bit....

Where do you get this stuff? Do you realize that almost everything you said in the statement above is not reality and somehow you imagined that I'm retired?

MBlovr · #83 01-17-2009, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by JollyRoger

There were very few complaints when billions disappeared in Iraq with no accounting or record of where it went, what's a few trillion more? They are afterall, leaving town, it's time to grab what little meat there is left on the bone.

Pretty Much... Kind of reminds you of how the Russian's oligarchy looted Russia during the fall of the Soviet Union

aklim · #84 01-17-2009, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by RichC

You gripe about socialism and extole the virtues of capitolism.

You are receiving a pension from the government

You have spent your entire career working in a social program, ie the military.
Receiving all sorts of benifits like health care, food, housing, that I did not have. And you can still go to the VA, which is a social program. And people like me were forced to pay for all of your stuff.

I never wanted anyone fighting any wars for me,

and you did not secure my freedom of speech.

Your entire life has revolved around social programs.

Even China, Vietnam and Russia are realizing that socialism isn't working or do you deny that 350000 Chinese millionaires are just a figment of the imagination?

Again, so what? He, like the other soldiers worked for it. Kinda of like if he socked money away and lived off the proceeds. What of it?

Again, it is a job benefit for having served for a certain number of years and being discharged honorably. What of it?

And I don't like a lot of the things we have to pay for. Take the WIC program. I didn't get the girl pregnant, why should I have to pay?

Who do you think protects you from someone who will come and take it away?

Again, how so? Even if it were true, which I don't think so. Does it make it a good thing?

RichC · #85 01-17-2009, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Howitzer

Where do you get this stuff? Do you realize that almost everything you said in the statement above is not reality and somehow you imagined that I'm retired?

Then explain how the military is not a social progam.
And how you dont get socialized health care.

So your not retired, but you will recieve goverment benifits when you do.

Go ahead and explain ...

mwood · #86 01-17-2009, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Howitzer

Where do you get this stuff? Do you realize that almost everything you said in the statement above is not reality and somehow you imagined that I'm retired?

He makes up weird little scenarios in his head about people who don't agree with his ramblings and posts attacks on them. Then when you respond he demands an apology. It's actually kind of entertaining

PS Thanks for your service to OUR country, not everyone is ungrateful to those who have and do defend out freedom. But don't get me started on those @%$**&^%$*(

RichC · #87 01-17-2009, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by aklim

Even China, Vietnam and Russia are realizing that socialism isn't working or do you deny that 350000 Chinese millionaires are just a figment of the imagination?

Again, so what? He, like the other soldiers worked for it. Kinda of like if he socked money away and lived off the proceeds. What of it?

Again, it is a job benefit for having served for a certain number of years and being discharged honorably. What of it?

And I don't like a lot of the things we have to pay for. Take the WIC program. I didn't get the girl pregnant, why should I have to pay?

Who do you think protects you from someone who will come and take it away?

Again, how so? Even if it were true, which I don't think so. Does it make it a good thing?

I dont think strict socialism is the answer either.
I kinda like democracy, or monarchies.

I wold rather be paying WIC to help keep a child alive than millitary personell that are trying to kill them.

Have you seen the child death toll in Iraq ?
Its absolutly disgusting !

I dont mind real national protection in a real war or emergency.
But I dont think that has happened since WWII

RichC · #88 01-17-2009, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by mwood

He makes up weird little scenarios in his head about people who don't agree with his ramblings and posts attacks on them. Then when you respond he demands an apology. It's actually kind of entertaining

PS Thanks for your service to OUR country, not everyone is ungrateful to those who have and do defend out freedom. But don't get me started on those @%$**&^%$*(

Then you explain how the military is not a social program.
Pick any of what you call my " weird little scenarios " and prove me wrong.

And please explain how you think our freedom has been threatned ???
I can show you how we lost lots of freedoms because of the patriot act, should we send in the military to stop that ???

Its easy to criticize, but hard to back it up.

mwood · #89 01-17-2009, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RichC

Then you explain how the military is not a social program.
Pick any of what you call my " weird little scenarios " and prove me wrong.

And please explain how you think our freedom has been threatned ???
I can show you how we lost lots of freedoms because of the patriot act, should we send in the military to stop that ???

Its easy to criticize, but hard to back it up.

The military is a pay for services rendered system that has benefits attached just like many private enterprises. If I work for a company that provides me medical, dental, retirement benefits, etc. does that mean it's a social program?
If you don't see how our military had protected our freedom there is no point in trying to explain. You obviously don't care.

jlomon · #90 01-17-2009, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RichC

Then you explain how the military is not a social program.

Large military forces exist for one of two reasons. The first being to protect a nation-state from unwanted interference from other nation-states. The second being to enforce one nation-state's will upon another nation-state. Both of these reasons reflect both sides of a coin, which is commerce. The United States today, much like the British Empire before it, and the Roman Empire before that (and many, many others) have strong military forces to protect the commerce and economy of their country and to protect the commercial interests of their corporations and citizens abroad and to protect the home nation from unwanted commercial interference from other countries.

You cannot have strong capitalism without a strong military force. So the benefits of the capitalist society that you enjoy on a daily basis are made possible by the fact that your nation has a strong military. A "social program" implies some sort of equalization handout, a leveling of the playing field through government intervention. The military is anything but a handout. People sign up of their own free will and are prepared to face death, injury and harm whether or not you personally asked them to fight a war for you. They make the comfort of your life possible in ways that you will never see or appreciate until they're gone.

You simply could not be more wrong about the military.