No, just pissed at Obama's BS, I'm tired of smooth talking BS already, his cabinet gun banning, loonies.

Nothing against you personally at all.
I just thought you took things a little too seriously and interjected some, what I thought was, humor as I responded to your question, not your emotions.

I guess you were'nt laughing.

I also don't see why or how you thought I was talking down to you.

You are probably taller than me anyways.....that was a joke....

Not laughing still?

Anyways to get back on track, yeah, his appointment of the guy feels like a big slap in the face to the honest tax payers, and feels like a message from the Obama administration that we better get used to his crooked buddies because we are gonna find out real quick just who's boss.
The mainstream meadia already gave the dude a free passand defended his every move, now anyone who simply questions Obama will be villified by the mainstream media.
For example, Rush Limbaugh.
Is Rush and egotistical, self centered, pompous, fat faced jack ass?
Well, yeah,BUT he has all the right in the world to question Obama, Bush, Achmedinijad, or Whomever else he wants, but the media is pushing very, very, very hard to silence people like him, Hannity, Beck, Boortz, what's her face, tall blonde??
This administration does not want anyone questioning them and their tactics, does this not scare you at all????

This in conjunction with his staunch anti gun administration regardless of his promise not to take our guns.
Maybe legislate them into non existence with a plethora of permits, restrictions, taxes, and yes banning the crap out of what the government deems NON-SPORTING.
C'mon, the dude is anti gun all the way.

Hillary had also promised a while back that if she were president she would sign an agreement with the UN to ban the use of arms worldwide.

There has also been alot of talk about ammending the constitution to suit their agenda, yes they can ammend the crap out of it with enough support.

How big do we need to let them get?

Once our voice and our guns are gone, what leg to the people have to stand on while we are paying out the wazu for government bailouts and illegals health care, prison care, baby care??
Who keeps the government in check?

We think we do now, but we are kidding ourselves, they do whatever the hell they want regardless most of the time so I take it pretty freaking personally when the government tries to strip me of my freedoms that I enjoy Obama, Bush, Jimmy Carter, or whomever, they all suck to an extent and I understand a president cannot agree with everybody all the time, but c'mon, government just plain lost it's common sense, and this Obama socialism is NOT the answer to todays problems.

I think the guy sedeuced alot of people, and I also think he used race as a really big issue.
But I think if his supporters actually cared more about his voting record and his policies instead of the one half color that he pimped himself to be, they would have voted someone else in like Mike Huckaby, or ???

Prepare for impact.

^^^^^^^^Hear Hear!!!

Now I always imagined it would be spelled "here, here!".

Did I hear where Congress wants to put together an advisory group made up of the heads of the Wall Street financial companies and have them tell Congress how to work thru this financial crisis?

Wow! Talk about the foxes guarding the hen house? Weren't these the guys who got us into this mess. How about the CEO of Goldman Sachs and Lehrman ? Their companies failed--probably due to excessive leverage and insufficient capital--and they are going to advise us?

Somehow, when I'm handed a check...the first thought that STILL GOES THROUGH MY MIND since I started earning a paycheck back in the '70s is "What the hell kind of dent am I looking at this pay period?"

Taxes are the secondary aspect to getting your pay...

I've also contracted myself out...

I get the WHOLE CHECK and I think "Jesus...is there going to be anything left?"

If I remember, I end up with about 60% of the original check...and when I was contracting, I always ended up paying more by the 15th of April...

ALWAYS...

So, assuming for the moment that "G" is working as an employee...he either over-estimated the exemptions he was qualified to take and his employer didn't take out extra...

...or, he was a "contractor" (with the IMF) and he didn't take out anything...just cashed the check and to top it off, he didn't even bother to file quarterly...

Anyway you look at this...he's so aloof about his own personal finances that he figures it will all take care of itself with no input from him...or he's hoping the aura of "O" will deflect any criticisim due to the "honeymoom effect" and it appears that all will happen just as he's hoping...a small slap on his financial fanny where his wallet's being kept...

You and I, however, would be fastly sinking in the mire of an IRS onslaught for the simple matter of a few hundred dollars and the further weight of additional penalties and even garnishments...

Yep...BAU...even better yet because it's the "Era Of 'O'" for those select few at the top...

BTW, that small, side-track hi-jack of the thread regarding the guns...there are those among us watching where that's going...Pelosi and Reid have ALWAYS been anti-gunners and I don't think for once second that those two clowns have changed their face-paint to placate their constituents...

That's the leadership of this country RIGHT NOW...if one person has ALREADY "executive ordered" stem-cell research funding and experimentation to begin anew in less than a week after taking office...what kind of signal does that show the other two leaders?

You'd have to be blind to miss that show...

But, you can be partisan...and not stand up for what's right... :rolleyes:

BTW...if the "rich" are being subjected to auditing all the time (like the IRS CLAIMS they are) and the rest of us "little fry" don't get audited as much...how can someone, at the top of the food-chain, in the financial world, get this kind of pass for this kind of length anyways?

Are the auditors told by "someone" not to go trolling in certain waters?

And the only time these clown-fish get caught is when the public-eye of impending public-service is FINALLY looking their way?

This whole system is F***ED, regardless who's at the helm...

Sometimes, you just wish the whole boat would just capsize and there'd be no survivors and the whole ship would just sink to the bottom... :sad:

I have not heard this but do you remember what happened when Dick Cheney wanted to meet with the leaders of the oil companies when the Bush administration was formulating an energy policy?

Wonder if the media will give Obama and the democratic congress the same level of scrutiny?

Under Paulsen and Dubbers, that crowd advised the nation that they're supposed to be rich, rich, filthy rich, and if it looks like they're slipping in that category, govt. funds are needed to make things right.

The cart is before the horse and has been for some time. Witness the huge bonuses for mishandling companies.

The reason he gets a pass is because only a certain few have been deemed wise and capable enough to re-engender confidence in the markets (really the market leaders). Who deemed them so? The same Wall St. people who fractured the confidence in the markets. Once you have the power to collapse markets, you also have the power to choose your own watchdog.

Some parts of Washington will never change. I was resigned to this Geithner thing. I'm more pissed at the lobbyist in the Defense Dept., but that's another part of Washington that will never change.

Sorry about that. Sometimes humor gets lost in the translation in this type of forum.I'm not sure what you mean by that, but don't you think that race is a really big issue? I think a bunch of the people on the mall a week ago Tuesday think race is a huge issue. I know I do and I am glad to see some movement in the right direction on that issue. We'll probably never have it totally behind us, but maybe things will get better.I don't think that Obama is nearly as far left as you think. I have no way of proving it, but I think that a large proportion of Americans - left wingers, right wingers, and a bunch in between - think Obama is more liberal than he really is. I think his core values are closer to the average American's values than are Mike Huckabee's.

That is correct. It should be utterly irellivent but instead it's the single biggest reason he became the nominee. Thus he's an affrimative action benificiary, and hopefully a competent one.

How so?

- Peter.

He lost votes because of his race and he gained votes because of his race. I have no idea how that netted out.

For me, the choice between Obama and McCain was not close, so Obama's race was not an important factor. If the race had been between two mythical candidates who were identical in every respect except one was white and one was black, a circumstance that would never exist in the real world, I would have voted for the black candidate. All else being equal, electing a non-caucasian benefits our country. And I hope we elect a woman in the not-to-distant future.Just a guess. An even more speculative guess on my part is that Obama is more tolerant of abortions than is the average American, if there is any such thing as an average American. On the whole, though, I think people are more comfortable with his view of the world. This is all just guessing on my part.

I agree that the huge bonuses paid to CEOs who mishandle their companies is absurd, but it is not a place for government action. It is private industry, and the mechanism for correcting it needs to stay with private industry. I would think that some sort of class action suit by the stock holders should be able to overthrow the Board and eliminate these sweet heart agreements. I would expect that there are grounds for civil suit for mishandling their fiduciary responsibilities.
These have not happened, and maybe they can't. But I would like to see the attempt before I cede power to the government over compensation of executives etc.

Do you want to make a bet?

The difference, as I see it, is that the oil comapany execs were sucessful, while the banking execs were not.

I see a LOT of President Obama supporters making statements like this one.
It seems like many of his supporters are projecting their hopes onto him.

I prefer to wait and see what he does. Actions are so much better an indicator of a person's philosophy than their words.