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Old 01-27-2009, 06:59 AM
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I am waiting for the Genesis Coupe.... 6 Speed Manual with a V8.... With a 100k mile warranty..... Come on baby!

There are seven basic Genesis Coupe configurations:

* 2.0T
* 2.0T Premium
* 2.0T Track (6-speed manual transmission only)
* 2.0T R-Spec (late availability, 6-speed manual transmission only)
* 3.8
* 3.8 Grand Touring
* 3.8 Track

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Old 05-05-2014, 11:43 PM
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5 years later, and these cars have proven to be reliable and hold up very well. Reminds me of the first generation LS400. Depreciation is pretty rough. 2 year old cars are about 50% off. 2009s with under 100k are readily available for 12k.

I rented one for a vacation in Florida over new years. It was the base V6. Didn't wow me, but felt nice enough. Sat in a top of the line 2009 V8 and took it around the block and was much more impressed. 1 owner 94,000 miles, sold at the auction for only $13000.

Now it's a complete redesign for 2015... Looks very nice.



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Old 05-06-2014, 01:24 AM
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Looks like one ugly car to me.
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Old 05-06-2014, 09:13 AM
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Looks like one ugly car to me.
A-la Audi.

I was reading an interview with Ian Callum, and he said the Koreans are just taking others designs and integrating into their own. Audi grille, Mercedes lights and shape, etc. His hope is that one day, the Koreans will finally wake up, and produce a car that's unique to them. He said that their current design is much like the first Japanese luxury cars of the 80s, where they stole design from the Germans.
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Old 05-06-2014, 12:24 PM
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Looks like one ugly car to me.
Unfortunately, they all are. It's just a question of which is less ugly. I must be getting old...
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Old 05-06-2014, 12:33 PM
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I remember checking out the gc when shopping for my vw. The interior was super cheap and not well designed. The optioned up ones grew into the shoes nicely though. The sedan is not bad looking, the coupe has always been over styled IMHO. Still, they are getting cheap.


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Old 05-06-2014, 03:06 PM
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The Lexus LS400 was the best copy ever made. Certainly a better successor to the 126 than the 140.
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Old 05-06-2014, 03:09 PM
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A friend of mine purchased a new 2013 Elantra in March. I have drove it about a 200 miles and I must say that overall it is a nice car. Here are a few comments on it:
1. As with most modern FWD small cars I have rode/driven when you are on fine smooth pavement the car is quiet, but every slight seam in the road is heard. Too much road noise. I wonder would $200 more in most cars cover dampening/insulating this noise? If so DO IT!!!!!

2. In the time I drove it the handling and braking were great. No complaints. Power is adequate. Not a dog, but not a power house. This car was built with fuel economy in mind and it does deliver on that.

3. Heat and AC controls easy to see, understand, and use. The heater control and fan knob feel a bit cheap when turned, but I do not know if it affects their longevity. The layout of the controls for the most part is nice. I don't care for the light switch on the end of a stalk. Same with the wipers on a stalk that is on the right side of the wheel. Perhaps I am just too used to makes that are combined into the turn signal.

4. Plenty of rear seat leg room. The bolsters in the rear seats are heated. The backs are not heated. I suspect that is due to the fact that the seats fold down.

5. Great fuel economy, however, the tank is only 12.6 gallons. I would much prefer if it could be 3-4 gallons larger.

6. Aside from anything I have mentioned the build quality and operation of levers/switches/handles/etc. have a very nice feel.

7. The "moon roof" is the typical small escape hatch that all cars seem to have today. Much smaller than those found on a W123 and W126.

All in all I have to admit that it is difficult to knock the car down. Knit-pick, sure, but anyone can do that all day about any car. I do prefer this Elantra over the 2011 Ford Fusions that we have for company cars.
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Hyunday has something to prove, MB not so much anymore. They sell a badge. MB fanboys laughed at Lexus when they first came out.
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Old 05-06-2014, 03:35 PM
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Hyunday has something to prove, MB not so much anymore. They sell a badge. MB fanboys laughed at Lexus when they first came out.
MB is still good with leading in many ways, just that today many others are good at keeping just a few steps behind.
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Old 05-06-2014, 05:35 PM
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Looks like a copy.

As to the above MB still makes a great car.

Saw them at the car show, still meh.
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I rented a Hyundai Genesis two weeks ago for the first time.

Drove it from Chicago to Lombard, IL and back.

I was blown away. It was a quiet, refined, and powerful car. It was shockingly fast. The seat of the pants impression is that it was as fast as my E430. It has every luxury appointment you can imagine: heated seats, navigation, satellite radio, bluetooth phone connectivity with bluetooth streaming of music to head unit, heated seats, etc.

I won't comment on the aesthetics other than it looked like a high-end luxury car.

I would suggest everyone that has posted an opinion on this thread to go out and drive one and report back on your impression of the car. I think your opinion will change.
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Next time I'm authorized a rental car, I'll see what I can get. Last time my only request was "No General Motors products". I wound up with a Kia Forte that I wasn't expecting to like, but I did.
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Old 05-06-2014, 09:41 PM
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Next time I'm authorized a rental car, I'll see what I can get. Last time my only request was "No General Motors products". I wound up with a Kia Forte that I wasn't expecting to like, but I did.
I usually end up with a Toyota Camry or Nissan Altima. Last month in Sacramento, I ended up with a Mercedes E350. I was frankly more impressed with the Genesis. Call me crazy, but that's how I felt. Based on my driving impression of the E350, I decided to turn down my mom's offer to sell me her 2012 E350 before she trades it in this year. It didn't feel any quieter than my E430. It rode rougher. Didn't appear to have any more interior room. It just had a much newer / updated instrument cluster / radio / HVAC panel which my car was missing.

This lead to my decision to keep my E430, and put in a new 7" touch screen system with navigation, DVD player, bluetooth phone and music streaming capability, and more. It's also compatible with the upcoming Apple Car Play software. I'm not feeling the love on the thread I started in the Audio section of the forum, so I'll share it here:

Installed 7" Pioneer Navi AV receiver in my W210
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Old 11-04-2015, 12:01 AM
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Hyundai needs a luxury line if they are going to sell cars like that. Something like "Lexus" or "Acura" or "Infiniti."

Also new S class grill is plastic for pedestrian saftey reasons. Doesnt make too much sense to me. The plastic grille hitting them wont hurt them but the 4,000 lb car attached to it will.
Hef called it! 6 years later

Hyundai Makes The Genesis Luxury Brand Official, Cars Will Get 'G-Number' Names

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