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Old 01-29-2009, 02:14 PM
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Forget the Limo, Check out the Helicopter Project

Fortunately we're not in a recession and can afford an $11 billion Presidential helicopter project -

Yes that is a B. Just checked.

Lockheed Over Budget on $6.1B Presidential Chopper

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Lockheed Martin Corp.'s $6.1 billion next-generation presidential helicopter program is at least 50 percent over budget and will need to be re-certified as a national security requirement by the Pentagon's leadership.

The Pentagon in March reported that the program's price tag had reached $11.2 billion, and the Navy and Lockheed have been trying unsuccessfully to bring costs down.

The Navy waited to report Bethesda, Md.-based Lockheed's ''critical'' cost breach until it explored numerous alternatives and considered making requirement trade-offs to keep the program within the original budget, Navy spokesman Lt. Clayton Doss said Thursday. But the service decided that was not possible.

Such overruns trigger a Nunn-McCurdy violation, which requires the Pentagon to notify Congress about significant cost growth on major acquisition programs. Doss said the service took the first step in notifying Congress about the presidential helicopter program's cost breach on Wednesday.

A Lockheed Martin spokesman deferred comment to the Navy.

The program will now have to be re-certified by the defense secretary after it is determined that the Navy's helicopters are required for national security reasons.

Doss said past cost-cutting efforts on the presidential helicopter program included adopting 200 recommendations and Lockheed participating in a Navy acquisition review.

Earlier this week, Defense Secretary Robert Gates told lawmakers the Pentagon will be forced to make tough choices on acquisitions in the upcoming fiscal 2010 budget as the department faces the pressure of paying for two wars during a recession.

Shares of Lockheed, the nation's largest defense contractor, fell 30 cents to $82.27 in afternoon trading.

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Old 01-29-2009, 02:16 PM
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What knockers!
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Gee I hope it's pretty.
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Old 01-29-2009, 02:49 PM
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It's misleading because it makes one believe that each machine is 6B when it's the development project.

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Old 01-29-2009, 02:58 PM
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It's gotta suck to order a new helicopter and be out of office before it is finished.

I like how Lockheed can say they'll build a helicopter for 6 bil, then build it for 11 bill and not have to eat the extra.
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Old 01-29-2009, 03:29 PM
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This is the same contract they underbid Sikorsky on, correct?

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Old 01-29-2009, 04:15 PM
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NatGeo had two specials recently, one on Air Force One and the other on Marine One. Catch it on reruns.

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