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LaughingGravy 02-05-2009 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BodhiBenz1987 (Post 2100834)
One of the sportswriters at my newspaper actually died that way. It was before I got my job there, so I didn't know him, but it was really sad. He and a photographer had to cover a hoops game on one night in N.C., then one the following afternoon in Delaware. The photog was a pilot and they took his prop plane to NC, and went to come back to DE after the game real late. I guess they had the plane fired up and the pilot realized he left a chock under one wheel or something like that, and the writer got out to remove it ... well, he walked around the front of the plane. Game over. Really sad ... he was only about 30 years old. What an awful way to die.:( I also feel so sorry for the photog ... he apparantly (obviously) was haunted by what happened.

I would call that Pilot Error.
1) stop engine
2) if only one door, ask passenger to get out, so pilot can remove wheel chock and properly stow someplace safe.
3) all get back in plane, close door and restart engine.
Time for all of the above...approx. 5 min. max.

WVOtoGO 02-05-2009 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by LaughingGravy (Post 2101159)
I would call that Pilot Error.
1) stop engine
2) if only one door, ask passenger to get out, so pilot can remove wheel chock and properly stow someplace safe.
3) all get back in plane, close door and restart engine.
Time for all of the above...approx. 5 min. max.

I agree 100% with your procedure here.

I’d say maybe 90 seconds tops though for shutting down, pulling a chock(s), and restarting something like a Cessna/Piper in the sub 200hp range.

Not sure if I’d call this one pilot error or not. But he certainly should have reminded the guy upon exiting the aircraft to be aware of the propeller. Usually that’s all the seed that needs to be planted to make the individual walking around the aircraft very aware of it at all times.

Our kids where born and thus far raised around aircraft of all sorts. There is hardly a day that goes by that they are not in or around them. It’s just the way life is here. They (9 and ~12) are very familiar with various types of aircraft and actually quite capable and confident in taking control of some types even at their young age.

Even so – I can assure you that if and when they are ever in a propeller driven aircraft, and either of them for whatever reason needs to get out. The engine(s) is shut down until they are back inside and seated. And never, are they permitted to exit a spooled helicopter without walking directly to and from the nose. (My parents 520N being the only exception.)

Hatterasguy 02-05-2009 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 2k2s430 (Post 2100941)
You are building houses now? That fear isn't good one to have when working on houses. The roof thing is fine, a few years ago I was painting a Third story dormer and had to stand on a cedar shake roof, well there was mold and mildew on the roof. It was a rether steep pitch and the obvious happened, I started to go down paint bucket and all. Luckily I grabbed on to the edge of the stile with my fingertips and stopped the fall. I wasn't scared of falling, I was scared of landing my options were land on the concrete sidewalk (ouch), land on the wrought iron fence complete with the spear like tips (not good) or land on the man made ravine complete with gynormous boulders (fantastico). I was messed up for years whenever we worked the site finally last year I got a grip and actually found some great work shoes that made a world of difference for me to regain my confidence, but for at least five years I was petrified when I would go on the roof at that site, my kids would flash through my mind and I would be done.


Luckly I rearly have to climb up something like that, the framers know what they are doing, and set the stairs, so by the time I need to get up their the stairs are in.

Hatterasguy 02-05-2009 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ramonajim (Post 2100955)
I'm guessing you wouldn't much enjoy this one then:

I would love to get one of my friends totaly smashed and have them pass out on that thing. I'd camp out for the morning scream.:D


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