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LaughingGravy 02-04-2009 09:34 AM

Do any regular shools teach Home Ec?
 
Do any public schools near you teach Home Economics or "Shop" (wood and/or metal) anymore?
In 7th and 8th grade, we had groups rotate.
Home Economics where we learned how to cook and even use a sewing machine. Good stuff.
While 1/4 of the grade was doing that, another 1/4 would be doing music education We did a paper on West Side story, watching the movie in segments and talking about it,too, while another would be doing Art, and another 1/4 would be doing wood shop (building a lamp, basic safety around power equipment, etc.)

In high school, you could still take wood shop, they added metal shop/auto but Home Ec seemed to vanish.
Music was always an option, too.

What's going on today?

Dee8go 02-04-2009 09:43 AM

My daughters took "Teen Living" and "Techno Lab" which seem to be the current equivalent to what we called Home Ec and Shop. I don't know if they use those terms everywhere or not.

Kuan 02-04-2009 09:44 AM

Don't know, I don't think anyone is qualified to teach cooking anymore these days. These days it's open package A, open package B, dump into a pot, stir. :angry:

kerry 02-04-2009 09:50 AM

Some Denver Public Schools have abolished Shop and Home Ec. Some still have Shop. Not sure about Home Ec. I think it's stupid to abolish Shop since it's the one class that keeps a fair number of working class boys interested in school.

TheDon 02-04-2009 10:06 AM

my high school had something like home ec... We also had Tech ed.. drafting, graphic design, shop, cnc milling, etc. I am going to teach tech ed soon. :)

Graplr 02-04-2009 10:34 AM

Home Ec is now called FACS. It is an acronym that stands for Family and Consumer Science. It is predominantly required at the middle school level. Usually at larger high schools there are specialty FACS electives like Cooking or Teen Life.

Shop is usually lumped in with Tech Ed (Technology Education). In the middle school level there is a combination of wood working, metals, computer graphics, etc. Again at the high school level there are more specialized elective classes like Small Engines, Cabinet Making, etc.

John Doe 02-04-2009 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Kuan (Post 2100125)
Don't know, I don't think anyone is qualified to teach cooking anymore these days. These days it's open package A, open package B, dump into a pot, stir. :angry:

Our Governor's personal chef has a venture teaching cooking classes at my daughter's school during after school care hours (just like taking piano lessons, ballet, language courses). It is kind of pricey, but I daresay he is more than qualified. Seems like a lot more men particularly, like to cook in the South than in the rest of the country.

Kuan 02-04-2009 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by John Doe (Post 2100210)
Our Governor's personal chef has a venture teaching cooking classes at my daughter's school during after school care hours (just like taking piano lessons, ballet, language courses). It is kind of pricey, but I daresay he is more than qualified. Seems like a lot more men particularly, like to cook in the South than in the rest of the country.

I can teach too and a bunch of people have done it as a guest instructor. The problem is they don't have a teaching credential.

John Doe 02-04-2009 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by kerry (Post 2100133)
Some Denver Public Schools have abolished Shop and Home Ec. Some still have Shop. Not sure about Home Ec. I think it's stupid to abolish Shop since it's the one class that keeps a fair number of working class boys interested in school.

Down here, we have "career centers" that serve every four high schools or so (depending on the size of the high schools) and beginning in grade 10, a student can continue their HS education at the career center, learning a traditional trade, and including things like catering, graphic design and hospitality industry management. They still get their HS papers and if they are college bound there is a foreign language supplement.

Kuan 02-04-2009 11:18 AM

I can hammer a rolled edge. :D Is that worth anything? I think so. It's one of the skills I'm proud to have.

John Doe 02-04-2009 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Kuan (Post 2100215)
I can teach too and a bunch of people have done it as a guest instructor. The problem is they don't have a teaching credential.

So is the problem qualified instructors or credentials? Credentials are less than easy to get to teach in a private school. Especially for a chef with a CV like this guy has.

Nate 02-04-2009 11:32 AM

Yes, middle school had FCE (home ec) as a require class. It was boring, and one of the easiest A's I've ever gotten. We also had "tech ed" which was a combonation of woodworking, metals, and cnc... All at the most basic levals.

High school has Woodworking (Levels 1-3) Metals (1-2) Welding (1-3) Auto (consumer auto, basic auto, and voc auto) And small engines (1)



Good times, i bailed study halls to fix whatever broken down POS i was driving. I fixed my schedual so they were right next to my auto class... Worked well.

I also took pottery senior year. I was the only guy, and I could not stand working with 20 giggly freshman girls... I attended one day...

~Nate

Graplr 02-04-2009 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by John Doe (Post 2100234)
So is the problem qualified instructors or credentials? Credentials are less than easy to get to teach in a private school. Especially for a chef with a CV like this guy has.

Actually it is the opposite. At a private school it is easier to teach without being licensed in a particular area. At a public school you must be licensed in the specific area you teach.

Also, most instructors in afterschool programs don't need to be licensed.

John Doe 02-04-2009 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Graplr (Post 2100248)
Actually it is the opposite. At a private school it is easier to teach without being licensed in a particular area. At a public school you must be licensed in the specific area you teach.

That's what I said, dude;) (or what I meant, anyway)

I will add that due to a teaching shortage in many states (I represent some school boards), you don't need a license in a specific area but rather a "Teacher's Certificate" which is pretty much worthless, but satisfies the Feds.

Graplr 02-04-2009 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by John Doe (Post 2100261)
That's what I said, dude;) (or what I meant, anyway)

I will add that due to a teaching shortage in many states (I represent some school boards), you don't need a license in a specific area but rather a "Teacher's Certificate" which is pretty much worthless, but satisfies the Feds.

Okay, well I went back and reread it. I guess you are not comparing it to a public school, just stating it is difficult to get credentialed in a private school. When you stated 'less than easy to get', I guess I thought you meant less easy than public, but you were just stating private is less than easy.....I guess. :P Now I'm confused.

Up here they okayed any college graduate to be a substitute teacher about 2 years ago. They used to have a teaching license.

There are however many programs that allow someone with a Bachelor's to obtain a teaching license in the area they studied in college.


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