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Are those done that often? Thought that was only on procedures deemed experimental or words to that effect? That is a pre-existing condition thing, isn't it? If I bought a new car and wanted insurance, no problem. OTOH, if I bought a used car, they would want to make sure that there were no issues with the car like say maybe the windshield is cracked or the driver's door is missing, etc, etc.
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That article raises some disturbing issues, but her article describes things that I can't find in the bill. For example, she talks about a "meaningful user" of the information technology created under the bill. My computer doesn't find that phrase anywhere in the bill. I am not saying it's not there, the bill is hundreds of pages long, but I don't know what to make of her article when I can't find the provisions she finds so troublesome.
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With the government, you have like, one government to choose from, which kind of limits the potential for competition. |
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No, unless private insurance companies are banned (which I don't think will happen) govt just adds to the competition. It doesn't replace it.
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No you didn't explain it. I did. I can opt out of my employer's group plan and the only thing I will gain from that is having fewer benefits and much higher premiums. If there's a govt plan at least that could be an affordable and attractive alternative. But currently there's none. The whole insurance industry is dominated by just a few players that enslave most people to their employer's group plan. There's very little competition.
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There is a lot of competition, shop for it. |
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Why am I not surprised. I'd rather private enterprise because I can find another entity easier than I can find another govt. Also, they have proven to be more efficient than govt. Somehow, a restaurant seems to have better food than a mess hall. Yes, I know it doesn't have to be that way but it almost always is.
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You mean like it adds to my retirement plan "options"? With that Ponzi scheme that nobody else can legally run? The one that I "opted in" to? Yep. Sure gives the competition a run for their money. That is probably why they say "Don't steal. The govt hates competition."
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At the time of conception, maybe, They had 20+ workers to 1 retiree. Today, nowheres close. IIRC, it was like 5 to 1. If we ran such a scheme, what do you think will happen to us from a legal perspective? I also see it as another slush fund for politicians. Also, it is something we are going to have to bail out. There are already rumblings of insolvency.
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Only if you survive, which I'm sure you will.
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You think the ratio of workers changing from 22:1 down to 5:1 is going to need adjustment? I think that word is an understatement of huge magnitude. OF course they will fix it. It only takes money. Besides, do you think that govt will allow such a huge slush fund to go down? Where do you think they can get such a popular slush fund?
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No there isn't. Even McCain acknowledged that. That's why he wanted do away with employer-funded health insurance and give people tax credits to get their own including from out of state which is supposedly not possible today. Though far from my favorite, I think even his proposal was better than what we have today. Ideally I'd like to do away with the insurance industry completely and just expand Medicare for everyone. Publicly funded, but privately administered, similar to what they have in Japan.
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