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Old 02-27-2009, 11:54 PM
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Roof question

Anybody had a metal roof installed on a house? What is the cost factor over the price of a traditional composition shingle roof? Looking at around a 3000 ft-2 house.

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I put a raised panel painted metal roof on my house 19 yrs ago. I think materials were around $100 per square at the time. Installed it myself. Very happy with it. I think the materials cost was a little more than double the cost of shingles. But we get a fair amount of hailstorms around here. I've recovered far more than my initial costs in hail dent damage in those 19 yrs which would have seriously damaged a shingle roof. Dents aren't visible from the ground. I figure the roof will far outlive me.
To order materials I got on the roof and measured the various sections. The material came cut to length. I had to make the angle cuts for the valleys. It took me, my wife and my brother in law about a week to do 2000 sq ft roof including tear off and haul away. We have a steep roof so it wasn't a simple task. Near the end we had two ladders meeting and tied at the peak so we could clamber up and down the roof. It's not too bad climbing up a valley but a challenge on a straight section.
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Old 02-28-2009, 12:21 AM
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I thought metal roofs had seams that require a special tool, that rolled the seam and made it tight to the next piece of metal. Does your roof have that?

I have a vague recollection seeing on TV someone mentioned the cost might be 4x that of traditional shingles, but my memory is not always perfect..


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I put a raised panel painted metal roof on my house 19 yrs ago. I think materials were around $100 per square at the time. Installed it myself. Very happy with it. I think the materials cost was a little more than double the cost of shingles. But we get a fair amount of hailstorms around here. I've recovered far more than my initial costs in hail dent damage in those 19 yrs which would have seriously damaged a shingle roof. Dents aren't visible from the ground. I figure the roof will far outlive me.
To order materials I got on the roof and measured the various sections. The material came cut to length. I had to make the angle cuts for the valleys. It took me, my wife and my brother in law about a week to do 2000 sq ft roof including tear off and haul away. We have a steep roof so it wasn't a simple task. Near the end we had two ladders meeting and tied at the peak so we could clamber up and down the roof. It's not too bad climbing up a valley but a challenge on a straight section.
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I thought metal roofs had seams that require a special tool, that rolled the seam and made it tight to the next piece of metal. Does your roof have that?

I have a vague recollection seeing on TV someone mentioned the cost might be 4x that of traditional shingles, but my memory is not always perfect..
Correct on both counts.

There are not that many contractors that do metal roofs around here...........they use a special machine...........and they charge big money for the job.

The 4X number is conservative.
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I thought metal roofs had seams that require a special tool, that rolled the seam and made it tight to the next piece of metal. Does your roof have that?

I have a vague recollection seeing on TV someone mentioned the cost might be 4x that of traditional shingles, but my memory is not always perfect..
That's a standing seam roof. Mine is a raised panel. The panels have ribs down their length and one rib sits over another where they join. They are screwed down with screws with neoprene washers. Raised panel was about half the cost of standing seam when I did mine. Standing seams have no exposed fasteners at all so can be installed on lower pitched roofs than raised panels. There's a house in my neighborhood with metal shingles. I'm pretty sure the shingles are well over 100 yrs old and still functioning. They are completely rusty now.
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Old 02-28-2009, 12:43 AM
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Didn't realize there were different kinds. I'll do some surfing and see how they both look. Is there any advantage/disadvantage of one over the other, besides the difference in cost?

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That's a standing seam roof. Mine is a raised panel. The panels have ribs down their length and one rib sits over another where they join. They are screwed down with screws with neoprene washers. Raised panel was about half the cost of standing seam when I did mine. Standing seams have no exposed fasteners at all so can be installed on lower pitched roofs than raised panels. There's a house in my neighborhood with metal shingles. I'm pretty sure the shingles are well over 100 yrs old and still functioning. They are completely rusty now.
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Old 02-28-2009, 09:52 AM
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just the look. The raised pannel is what most shops are made from. And it comes in differant styles, usually 3ft wide. And at the ends you overlap by 2" and as long as you have a normal pitch roof, it will last a long time.
Can add a little noise inside during a heavy storm depending on your home's insulation..
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I'm currently offering lessons on the installation of a residential metal roof.

Fred, I PM'd you a link with the various types of panels.
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. There's a house in my neighborhood with metal shingles. I'm pretty sure the shingles are well over 100 yrs old and still functioning. They are completely rusty now.
i thought he was talking about metal shingles.they look nice and if i remember right they cost about 4 times as much per sq then asphalt shingles.buddy put some on his house.said that his insurance is lower because of them for some reason.and they have a 50yr warranty.
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But wouldn't a Texas hailstorm just dent up the metal roof? It would remain watertight, but wouldn't it look like an old Honda beater?

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Didn't realize there were different kinds. I'll do some surfing and see how they both look. Is there any advantage/disadvantage of one over the other, besides the difference in cost?

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Fred
Fred, you can get 50 year fiberglass shingles installed for about $100. with materials included (not including ripoff). They'll probably be perfectly fine when you sell the house. I can't see the benefit of the metal roof with the latest durability of the fiberglass.
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Old 02-28-2009, 10:39 AM
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But wouldn't a Texas hailstorm just dent up the metal roof? It would remain watertight, but wouldn't it look like an old Honda beater?

- JimY
You'd think so but the gauge of the metal is thick enough that the dents are small and invisible from the ground. The nice thing is that they are visible to the insurance inspector on the roof.
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Old 02-28-2009, 11:02 AM
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I'm in the process of having a poorly installed raised panel roof replaced. I am installing a standing seam roof, and it does require a special crimper. It's not so much the tools - the crimper is about $500 - $750, it's the labor. Shingled roofs go up very quickly, and the installers don't need much training before they can handle the work. Standing seam takes a lot of skill and patience on part of the installer. I had to look for a while before I found someone who was willing to handle the job, and back it up afterwards.

Yes, it cost a lot more than a shingled roof, but it will outlast them by a much greater factor. Around here, the wind tears shingles (even the really good ones) off of the roofs - you get about 1/2 the normal life out of them. The standing seam roof does "oil can" in the wind, so it's kind of noisy at times. Figure 4x materials and 2.5x labor - more if your house has a high pitch or oddly shaped dormers (both of which mine has).
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How was the raised panel roof poorly installed?
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