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Old 04-07-2009, 10:56 PM
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Shop door

I am getting ready to put a door on the shop, in place of the tarp.
So, 2 options,
1 garage door. Big bucks
2 sliding barn door type. Much cheaper and what I had designed to be installed.

How well do the sliding doors seal when heating or keeping the rain out? Or should I just go with the better sealing garage door?

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Old 04-07-2009, 11:10 PM
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I am getting ready to put a door on the shop, in place of the tarp.
So, 2 options,
1 garage door. Big bucks
2 sliding barn door type. Much cheaper and what I had designed to be installed.

How well do the sliding doors seal when heating or keeping the rain out? Or should I just go with the better sealing garage door?

thanks
My experience is that a garage door seals much better. Of course I have never seen anyone make a concerted effort to seal a barn door very well. I suppose you could use a couple c-shaped brackets that could hold the door tight up to the shop wall on one end, and a good tight latch on the other. Garage door weather strip attached to the door opening so the door will seal up when pulled up tight to the wall. I think it would work pretty well. That would enable you to make the door yourself, and insulate it better than a garage door. Sealing the bottom would be a little more difficult, but doable.
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Old 04-08-2009, 06:13 AM
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Forget about heating with a barn door. The garage doors are bad enough on heat loss!

Barn doors are designed to keep the cows in and theives out....thats about all.
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Old 04-08-2009, 07:56 AM
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Instead of thinking of it as a barn door, visualize a sliding wall. I think if you are a crafty builder, you can make something cheaper than a garage door that keeps heat in better. You may consider insulated draping on the inside to help eliminate drafts. Will the door be used frequently?
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I agree with previous poster, how often you use the big door is the question, if you dont mind some extra way of pulling it tight it could be sealed but would be a PIA to open close. If you are going to use a man door most of the time the barn door should work fine and could be thicker and better insulated than a conventional garage door.
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lemme tell you, my slifing barb doors on the garage don't even keep the cats out, much less the cold. Go with a good quality insulated garage door
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Old 04-08-2009, 12:12 PM
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lemme tell you, my slifing barb doors on the garage don't even keep the cats out, much less the cold. Go with a good quality insulated garage door

if you built it with 2x6's insulated with covering on both sides and overlapped the ends a foot with clamps to tighten it, I doubt the cats would get in. Its all about what you want. Might not open as nice but I bet it would be warmer than a standard door.
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INSULATED garage door.
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Old 04-08-2009, 01:15 PM
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INSULATED garage door.
And what do you suppose the r-value of an INSULATED garage door is? Maybe a whopping 3 or as much as 6? You can get as high as 17, but that is a very pricey door. If the concern is keeping heat in, and saving money on the installed cost, a barn style door may well out perform the insulated garage door. It really boils down to the intended use.
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The use is for getting the cars and projects in/ out of the shop. I would use the man door most of the time.

What about a roll up door. I thought that would be worse than a garage door.
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Old 04-08-2009, 05:55 PM
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The use is for getting the cars and projects in/ out of the shop. I would use the man door most of the time.

What about a roll up door. I thought that would be worse than a garage door.

I priced roll up doors and found them to be more expensive than the sectional garage doors, I have not seen any that provide good insulation
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The barn door can be a good insulator if you make it larger than the opening and rig up some sort of weatherstripping.

But so can an overhead door...
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Old 04-08-2009, 07:35 PM
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Got any pictures of the shop? Then we could REALLY come up with something!! Is it a big shop? Is the door on the end or the side? Is there room for a full width door to slide out of the way and not stick out past the adjacent wall?

For my money, I would build something that fit nice and tight, with an r-value up around 17 (2X4 with insul) Might even do a two piece door that was on the inside, rather than out.

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