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Old 04-27-2009, 03:39 PM
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How Swine Flu Started

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the latest finds from the CDC
That's why I stick with sheep.
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That's why I stick with sheep.
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That's why I stick with sheep.
Ewe beast,ewe.
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So I guess it didn't start in Wyoming?

Seriously, I was suprised to learn from a flu researcher on another forum that all forms of flu began in birds.
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Panic-demic, we need to have a war on swine flu.
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So I guess it didn't start in Wyoming?

Seriously, I was suprised to learn from a flu researcher on another forum that all forms of flu began in birds.
and no one thought HIV could jump species from monkey's either. Kerry- how does it jump from birds to humans, is it stricly respiratory or can it migrate via blood born pathogen?
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I have no clue. How can it pass from bird to human but then not from human to human? What has to happen for a virus that passes from one species to humans but not between humans, to become a virus that passes from human to human? I know it can happen when a pig gets a bird virus and the two together mutate into a third virus that can pass from swine to human and then human to human. But what happens in the virus that permits this to happen?
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I have no clue. How can it pass from bird to human but then not from human to human? What has to happen for a virus that passes from one species to humans but not between humans, to become a virus that passes from human to human? I know it can happen when a pig gets a bird virus and the two together mutate into a third virus that can pass from swine to human and then human to human. But what happens in the virus that permits this to happen?
I'm not a doctor, I just play one on T.V. but just a guess here. Since we use alot of pig pieces (skin, heart valves) in humans the two have to have some sort of similarity for a virus to replicate between the two. From human to human if the immune system is weakened enough then anything is possible it's like an open door.
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Stick with or stick it to sheep?
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I'm not a doctor, I just play one on T.V. but just a guess here. Since we use alot of pig pieces (skin, heart valves) in humans the two have to have some sort of similarity for a virus to replicate between the two. From human to human if the immune system is weakened enough then anything is possible it's like an open door.
IIRC, we are 2 genes away from pigs.
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I'm not a doctor, I just play one on T.V. but just a guess here. Since we use alot of pig pieces (skin, heart valves) in humans the two have to have some sort of similarity for a virus to replicate between the two. From human to human if the immune system is weakened enough then anything is possible it's like an open door.
Some parts of various mammals do not contain the immunogenic (?) elements that others do, in other words, they are basically compatible . By analogy it kinda works the same way where you could (in a pinch) use pieces of galvanized pipe instead of copper tubing in the engine heater core or oil cooler, if that's all you had. They are not an ideal fit but they will work.

Compare that to using vacuum hose of the right diameter in place of brake hose. The hydraulic pressure will cause an immediate bursting.

Or neoprene hose for injector overflow. Sooner or later the neoprene will be attacked by the diesel fuel, in the same way that white blood cells and bateriostatic antibiotics surround and dismember hostile organisms.

Some stuff works and other stuff doesn't.

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