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Old 05-06-2009, 08:25 AM
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I agree with Ara,for many Indian families the Nano will be a luxurious vehicle.
No kidding.

Not to mention, all they really need.
As apposed to the attitudes we see here, that are what got us (and the big three) where we are today.

You guys are right. What that country needs is 203,000 big ass, V8 powered, 300+hp SUVs making 15mpg while hauling one person to the market. Until then, they ain’t got ***** on us here in ‘merica.

Like there aren’t 203,000 people here driving vehicles they can hardly afford the note on, much less the fuel for, that “regret buying the awful thing”.


It’s a different country with different needs.
Maybe we could actually learn something from them.
Apparently some of us here aren’t learning much from the Japanese and the big three crumble.

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Old 05-06-2009, 10:38 AM
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India: 9 cars per 1000 people.... That's a lot of sharing.


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Thats a lot of high emissions, low safety and short lifespan cars to pollute India.
Yep, not everyone should have a car. Talk about emissions! Which way do the trades blow over India? Someone is going to get a lot of smog.
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Old 05-06-2009, 12:52 PM
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You guys are right. What that country needs is 203,000 big ass, fuel cell powered, SUVs hauling one person to the market. Until then, they ain’t got ***** on us here in ‘merica.

Fixed it.
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India: 9 cars per 1000 people.... That's a lot of sharing.

Don't forget about the trains...

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Old 05-06-2009, 01:19 PM
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Thats a lot of high emissions, low safety and short lifespan cars to pollute India.
1. high emmisions: maybe not compared to the smoke belching two stroke scooters that these replace.

2. low safety: not compared to a scooter

3. Short lifespan: maybe maybe not, developing countries have a way of keeping things running.

Also, a Nano will carry 4 (or more), a scooter will carry two (or so), so this may reduce the numbers of vehicles on the road.

I think most Americans dont understand the dynamics of India; it is an emerging country with a huge population. the people need to get from one place to another. the Nano is somewhat akin to the Model T, in that it is designed to produce basic transportation.
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Old 05-07-2009, 02:08 AM
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The biggest problem facing India is parking and road space, Nano to an extent will solve that issue. Many Indians who own SUVs etc are considering it as a second vehicle to toot around in the city where even the mere thought of turning or parking with SUV conjures up nightmare.
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Old 05-07-2009, 02:09 AM
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their making arrrangements for pick up at your local 7-11.
Yep and to celebrate they will head out to the nearest Kosher deli and have some matzoh ball soup.
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gawd, i know most of you are joking, but some of you really need to be a bit more realistic about what you perceive indians and their culture. yes, india and indian culture may not be up to 1st world standards, but not all of the country and its people are backwards ass. i have yet to travel there, but some cities in india are truly world class, say my colleagues.

i happen to work with many indian contractors who work hand in hand on our software development projects. most of them have masters in computer science, phDs and mbas (even if they are on the IT side) most have scrapped their way up to the top, take education way more seriously than most americans, and are the most gentile people you'll ever meet. and about the education/money correlation thing: yes, its true. i read an LA Times article and on a per capita basis here in America, Indian Americans have the highest income and % of PhDs.

as many have correctly pointed out, the car is based on the needs of the people, the lack of parking, and room to manuever. not to mention, the streets are already crowded and don't move at a high rate of speed. think of manhattan at rush hour. you dont need a freakin' ford excursion to pick up your ingredients for your chicken tikka masala dinner, folks.
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Old 05-07-2009, 03:00 AM
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gawd, i know most of you are joking, but some of you really need to be a bit more realistic about what you perceive indians and their culture. yes, india and indian culture may not be up to 1st world standards, but not all of the country and its people are backwards ass. i have yet to travel there, but some cities in india are truly world class, say my colleagues.

i happen to work with many indian contractors who work hand in hand on our software development projects. most of them have masters in computer science, phDs and mbas (even if they are on the IT side) most have scrapped their way up to the top, take education way more seriously than most americans, and are the most gentile people you'll ever meet. and about the education/money correlation thing: yes, its true. i read an LA Times article and on a per capita basis here in America, Indian Americans have the highest income and % of PhDs.

as many have correctly pointed out, the car is based on the needs of the people, the lack of parking, and room to manuever. not to mention, the streets are already crowded and don't move at a high rate of speed. think of manhattan at rush hour. you dont need a freakin' ford excursion to pick up your ingredients for your chicken tikka masala dinner, folks.
You are correct on all points except for the cities, India has a long way to go when it comes to bringing them up to level of neighboring Shanghai, Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand. Democracy, overpopulation and also rampant corruption combined with regionalism ( India is a sub continent of different races and ethnic groups ) hamper everything. Having said that, there are pristine regions untouched by commercialism which have almost no equal elsewhere if you know where to go.
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Thats a lot of high emissions, low safety and short lifespan cars to pollute India.
Seriously, the nano comes with a gun the the glove box so that if you're about to get into an accident you can just end it before it happens cause there is no way you could survive a crash in that.
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Seriously, the nano comes with a gun the the glove box so that if you're about to get into an accident you can just end it before it happens cause there is no way you could survive a crash in that.
Likewise the SUV's sold stateside comes with gun in the glove box and "Road rage for dummies".
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Seriously, the nano comes with a gun the the glove box so that if you're about to get into an accident you can just end it before it happens cause there is no way you could survive a crash in that.
http://www.biofuelsdigest.com/blog2/2009/03/23/the-tata-nano-a-special-biofuels-digest-report-on-the-new-ultra-low-cost-car/

ABS, ESP, air bags, and Euro emissions and crash test seals of approval. A diesel Nano Euro is also in the works.

But Ratan Tata is already thinking down the road to biofuels and compressed air. Recently Adil Jal Darukhanawala, editor-in-chief of The Times of India’s ZigWheels.com, asked him about his plans.
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http://www.biofuelsdigest.com/blog2/2009/03/23/the-tata-nano-a-special-biofuels-digest-report-on-the-new-ultra-low-cost-car/

ABS, ESP, air bags, and Euro emissions and crash test seals of approval. A diesel Nano Euro is also in the works.

But Ratan Tata is already thinking down the road to biofuels and compressed air. Recently Adil Jal Darukhanawala, editor-in-chief of The Times of India’s ZigWheels.com, asked him about his plans.
K but I know for a fact that in India those are non existent or optional(ABS, ESP and air bags). Not too many indian people are going to be able to afford the upgrades and they crash test those cars at not high speeds. They drive crazy over there in India and I don't think a nano could hold up in 50 mph crash, even with abs and esp, don't see how the air bag would help much too.
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K but I know for a fact that in India those are non existent or optional(ABS, ESP and air bags). Not too many indian people are going to be able to afford the upgrades and they crash test those cars at not high speeds. They drive crazy over there in India and I don't think a nano could hold up in 50 mph crash, even with abs and esp, don't see how the air bag would help much too.

Survival is matter of chance, you wouldn't survive in a MB if you hit a wall at 100mph or for that matter a loaded tanker. Those who can shell out money for the car can also afford the ancillaries. Point here is that Nano in crash tests did better than the metal bodied Suzuki 800 which till Nano's inception was the choice for a econo car. The chances of survival in a Nano at 50mph is better than being in a two wheeler. Realistically Nano would be a strictly urban car and in that case, 50mph unless driven in middle of night is a pipe dream but if they do and crash, good for India's much needed population control.

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