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Graplr · #31 05-20-2009, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ForcedInduction

"Humanity" used to be like the rest of nature, survival of the fittest. Medical technology has allowed us to fulfill the instinct to "live" and "protect the family" at all costs, even if the cost hurts themselves and others.

So I guess humans should run around and act like animals then?

#32 05-20-2009, 10:48 AM

Humans are animals and most act like it.

SwampYankee · #33 05-20-2009, 10:55 AM

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Which is more productive, caring for a "disabled" person that will never be more than a chair/bed warmer from infancy to geriatricy or starting over right away and producing a child healthy from birth?

How foolish of us to actually *gasp* educate him so that he might be capable of getting out of a chair or bed. I guess we shouldn't have set our bar so high. There's way to broad a spectrum of "disabilities" to summarily write them off. Not all disabilities present health issues and there are lots of disabilities and diseases that can emerge years later with a child healthy from birth.

I'd rather my money go towards disabled American citizens than illegal aliens and welfare cheats. There are plenty of non-disabled people who are a complete waste of oxygen.

Jerry Cohen · #34 05-20-2009, 11:08 AM

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According to the article, the 13-year-old can't read. Either he's a retard and his death would be no great loss, or there is a pattern of child abuse and neglect that needs to be aggressively prosecuted.

What an utterly daft comment.

#35 05-20-2009, 11:27 AM

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How foolish of us to actually *gasp* educate him so that he might be capable of getting out of a chair or bed.

Try all you want, mentally retarded people are physically incapable of learning the same way a normal person does. If they have the mental abilities of a 2 year old, no amount of education will change it.
You can teach a parrot to talk, but you'll never have a conversation with it.

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I'd rather my money go towards disabled American citizens than illegal aliens and welfare cheats.

Thats a totally different subject.

Graplr · #36 05-20-2009, 11:46 AM

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Humans are animals and most act like it.

Really? Bioligically we can be defined as animals. But there are many things that set humans apart from beasts. Language, court systems, written laws, knowledge of our own existence and death, etc.

So again, we should act like beasts and kill kids that don't fit the mold and can't survive on their own after, say 5 years old? Feel free to drop out of society and go live in a jungle amungst beasts.

When you age a bit more and experience the world and perhaps even start a family...your views will change. Say you have a disabled son. Would you throw him in the woods to live on his own and die? Or would you show some human compassion?

aklim · #37 05-20-2009, 11:49 AM

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Add to that the power of the government to inject a child with toxic chemicals against the parents wishes, a future of economic uncertainty and national bankruptcy, and there is cause for concern for those who end up in the "care" of the state.

When I lived with Mom & Dad, they paid the rent, utilities and even my food. Unfortunately, they had certain practices that I didn't care for. In my own house, I do whatever I want. Imagine that. Simple solution. Stop asking the state to get involved in every facet of your life.

aklim · #38 05-20-2009, 11:50 AM

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Wow dude, reign it in. That kind of comment displays a complete lack of intelligence or compassion.

How would you feel if you had a child with learning disabilities and someone started spouting such hateful nonsense?

Compassion, perhaps. How is it lacking in intelligence?

I'd probably be already in agreement with that someone.

aklim · #39 05-20-2009, 11:52 AM

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Just remember this, Albert Einstein was thought to be retarded up through age 10.....guess we should have offed him when we had the chance.....

Lets not forget Mozart and the other child prodigies. However, for every one of these prodigies, how many others are there? IOW, if we took 100000 of these sort of people, what are the odds of an Einstein?

aklim · #40 05-20-2009, 11:54 AM

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So I guess humans should run around and act like animals then?

A lot of the qualities of the perfect human can be found in the animals. Look at all the wars and fights we have. Animals fight for survival of the species and not to hoard things. Can we even come close to that? I doubt it. Before you rise above the animal level, perhaps you best first rise above the human level.

#41 05-20-2009, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Graplr

Really? Bioligically we can be defined as animals. But there are many things that set humans apart from beasts. Language, court systems, written laws, knowledge of our own existence and death, etc.

Thats known as culture. We are animals no matter if a few people wish otherwise.

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So again, we should act like beasts and kill kids that don't fit the mold and can't survive on their own after, say 5 years old?

Not at all. Severe problems are usually apparent well before the age of 5, some even before birth.

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Feel free to drop out of society and go live in a jungle amungst beasts.

What a very ignorant thing to say.

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When you age a bit more and experience the world and perhaps even start a family...your views will change.

Clearly yours will never change no matter what part of reality others try to show you. Your mind is closed to anything you don't want to think about.

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Say you have a disabled son.

I wouldn't have one.

Fitz · #42 05-20-2009, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim

When I lived with Mom & Dad, they paid the rent, utilities and even my food. Unfortunately, they had certain practices that I didn't care for. In my own house, I do whatever I want. Imagine that. Simple solution. Stop asking the state to get involved in every facet of your life.

I was clearly speaking against state involvement. However, handicapped children do typically outlive their parents.

aklim · #43 05-20-2009, 12:28 PM

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I was clearly speaking against state involvement. However, handicapped children do typically outlive their parents.

Yes, I understand that. But if you involve the state in paying your tab then that should give them the right to dictate certain things. Kinda like the bailout. GM took the money so when Obama felt the GM head wasn't doing what he wanted, Obama had the GM head fired. Mom and Dad didn't want me having sex with my GF under their roof. I had to take it to a motel and later on move out.

As you noticed, some handicapped children DO outlive their parents. When that happens, the child now becomes a ward of the state. As such, the state has an interest.