Anyone actually going to trade any old cars?
The way I read the bill if your car gets less than 18 MPG and you purchase a car or truck that gets more than 22 MPG (which is not much improvement) you get $3500.
If you buy a car that gets 10 MPG better than your trade you get $4500.00 Paid by the Government to the dealer. Dealer is in turn responsible for disposing the vehicles.

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72 280SE His Majesty

I missed out, but heck ya, $4500 is a nice chunk of change.

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1999 SL500
1969 280SE
2023 Ram 1500
2007 Tiara 3200

It's a communist plot...

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"It's normal for these things to empty your wallet and break your heart in the process."
2012 SLK 350
1987 420 SEL

If $4,500 was stopping you from buying a new car before, you shouldn't be buying a new car. The only person I would recommend this program to would be someone who happens to have an extra crap car lying around that they've just been too lazy to get rid of (since it's not really worth the effort for $1,000).

My advice to someone who's daily driver is a crappy guzzler worth $1,500 would be to sell it for that and search for a good deal on a solid used car that gets good mileage.

But then, since apparently the big goal in America is to get everyone more in debt than they already are, I guess the whole thing is a fabulous idea.

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1987 300D, arctic white/palomino--314,000 miles
1978 240D 4-speed, Euro Delivery, light ivory/bamboo--370,000 miles
2005 Jeep Liberty CRD Limited, light khaki/slate--140,000 miles
2018 Chevy Cruze diesel, 6-speed manual, satin steel metallic/kalahari--19,000 miles
1982 Peugeot 505 diesel, 4-speed manual, blue/blue, 130,000 miles
1995 S320, black/parchment--34,000 miles (Dad's car)

Save all Mercedes from the Evil Crusher...

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"It's normal for these things to empty your wallet and break your heart in the process."
2012 SLK 350
1987 420 SEL

I doubt the average older MB owner will go for this, unless the car is beat.

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1999 SL500
1969 280SE
2023 Ram 1500
2007 Tiara 3200

Hat- there is no such thing as an "average older MB owner." Hey wait isn't that a band Average White Benz...

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"It's normal for these things to empty your wallet and break your heart in the process."
2012 SLK 350
1987 420 SEL

Brings me to a question though: What will happen to all the parts on the cars? I'm sure some of them won't have a single useful part on them, but a lot will ... for example if some MBs end up getting dumped through this farce. The wastefulness of this policy makes me queasy. I guess I'm just of the mindset that you don't just throw something away when its service is no longer needed. Its service may be of use to someone else, or its parts. If it's useless in all ways it will end up in the crusher anyway, and that's fine. Am I being overly optimistic to wonder if some of the parts on the clunkers turned in will be salvaged?

Throw it all away, America. I love it.

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1987 300D, arctic white/palomino--314,000 miles
1978 240D 4-speed, Euro Delivery, light ivory/bamboo--370,000 miles
2005 Jeep Liberty CRD Limited, light khaki/slate--140,000 miles
2018 Chevy Cruze diesel, 6-speed manual, satin steel metallic/kalahari--19,000 miles
1982 Peugeot 505 diesel, 4-speed manual, blue/blue, 130,000 miles
1995 S320, black/parchment--34,000 miles (Dad's car)

Depends on if they crush them or store them in a junkyard.....I'd prefer the later, at least then they can be found. Remember this tear jerker?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rv2-DYgzcY


Is there a limit on which model year cars apply? I have a friend with a Taurus thats basically broken......

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1982 300GD Carmine Red (DB3535) Cabriolet Parting Out
1990 300SEL Smoke Silver (Parting out)
1991 350SDL Blackberry Metallic (481)

"The thing is Bob, its not that I'm lazy...its that I just don't care."

WE are the last of a dying breed Bodhi- I was raised by people who survivied the Depression and you recycled until it had holes in it or passed it on to someone who needed it. Today if it doesn't smell new it's in the trash pile!

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"It's normal for these things to empty your wallet and break your heart in the process."
2012 SLK 350
1987 420 SEL

Crushing typically means recycling. So to say that these old guzzlers are being thrown away isn't accurate.

If I remember correctly the deal only applies to vehicles that get 18 mpg or less. Not many Benzes will qualify for that, and those that do are probably junkers already anyway. I highly doubt a lot of nice old Benzes will get crushed because of this.

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2004 VW Jetta TDI (manual)

Past MB's: '96 E300D, '83 240D, '82 300D, '87 300D, '87 420SEL

This will cause a great deal of hardship here in Texas. With the demise of the 1980's era Suburbans, it will be difficult to find a vehicle that gets 22 mpg that one can pack 25 Mexicans into.

Hmmmmm, does this make my '86 300E (one owner, me, since '89) w/219K worth $4500?

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62 220sb
67 250S
72 280SE 4.5
74 280C
77 300D
82 240D
85 190E 2.3
86 300E RIP 12/28/09
85 300SD
92 300D 2.5
00 E320 Current
Over 1,000,000 miles in Benzes, Since66

....and a whole passel of BMW 2002 and Tii

Fueleconomy.gov shows the combined EPA MPG as 19.
If that's the number that would be used for "clunker" determination, then it wouldn't make the cut; too fuel-thrifty.

This website, http://www.fueleconomy.gov/FEG/noframes/2017.shtml shows 16 City, 20 Highway, 18 Combined.

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62 220sb
67 250S
72 280SE 4.5
74 280C
77 300D
82 240D
85 190E 2.3
86 300E RIP 12/28/09
85 300SD
92 300D 2.5
00 E320 Current
Over 1,000,000 miles in Benzes, Since66

....and a whole passel of BMW 2002 and Tii