Recently I saw the 3-part DVD documentary called UFOs: The Best Evidence and last night I saw another documentary from the same company called UFO Abductions: A Global Phenomenon. Anyone else seen these and what did you think? I find it pretty fascinating and I think the abductions are a real issue, not something most people make up. For one, their stories match up pretty well for it to be mere dreams or psychological issues, and second, some even have physical evidence on their bodies from the medical examinations that the aliens performed on them.

Anyone ever seen a real UFO in person or been abducted? I think the documentary said that in a survey it was found about 2% of the world population has been abducted, but mainstream scientists and governments don't like to talk about it for fear of spreading panic and sounding ridiculous.

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I think my body has been taken over by aliens. I keep having the urge to probe pretty women . . .

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I think it's exclusively a question of psychology. The so called evidence which has been pretty much the same old shtick since the 1950's is nothing that couldn't be contrived. There has never been a shred of physical evidence that is of an extraterrestral nature. As for most of the worlds scientists not wanting to "talk about it". Most of the worlds scientists are simply too busy with actual science to bother with crank stuff.

Have you ever read any books by Carl Sagan? Specifically "Broca's Brain" and "A Demon Haunted world"?

- Peter.

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Yes it is real. furthermore, another matter not talked about is We have visited other beings planets also, for instance the planet Zyvaxx which shares the earths orbit around the sun. Zyvaxx is on the exact opposite side of the sun so thats why we dont know of it's existance . Not so long ago an astronaught -or a cozmonaught-I cant remember which--crashed on Zyvaxx, orthewise known as the Planet of Amazon Women. He encountered one of the Zyvennian'z--- a 17 ft tall redhead-Butt neckedd. He said to her " take me to your ladder--I'll see your leader later"..............

No, I haven't read those books, and I take it that you haven't seen that documentary either. Among the physical evidence that was covered were strange implants embedded in the patient's nervous system in such a way that it wouldn't cause any inflammation but it would arouse the patient even under anesthesia when the implant is touched. Do you know of any DIY-ers who can do install such devices in their own bodies? I'd encourage you to see the documentary or at least open your mind a bit. Are you saying there's no possible way there's intelligent life on any other planet in the universe? Why not?

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What a coincidence. So have I. I also have those urges.

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It's those urges and what they result in that supposedly has the aliens very interested in us. Makes me wonder how some of these aliens "do it" and if it's any different from our thing.

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Correct, though I've seen plenty of others of that ilk over the years.

Not only do I not know of such I dont believe the accounts. In which hospitals were the existance of these implants confirmed to exist? What doctors confirmed them? In which medical journals were the incidents written up? Absent such evidence it's simply tabloid TV.

My mind is perfectly open. It simply requires evidence. That evidence has to stand up to scientific scrutiny, that's what makes it science.

On the contrary, I'm completely open to the possibility. Though in keeping with the scientific tradition I require evidence for which there is currently none.

When I was a kid around 12 - 13 years old or so I was big into this kind of stuff. Used to get a set of magazines called "The Unexplained" which pushed the whole UFO/Abduction, alternate dimention, LochNess Monster, Bigfoot, Ghosts what have you scene.

However I was also interested in Astrononmy (not astrology) and thru that interest came upon Carl Sagan's TV series "Cosmos" in the 80's. And his books. I quickly realised that if there is ever going to be any evidence for such paranormal stuff it will be found by science. Those who wish to believe absent scientific evidence will conduct their quest outside the boundries of science which right away puts them in crank land in my opinion.

As for extraterrestrial life. As I've said before I think it's quite possible but despite my fondest wish for it to be so there is, so far, not a shred of evidence for it's exisitence that stands up to scientific scrutiny. And scientists have been searching actively for it for some time.

For those that think government scientists are covering up the evidence out of concern for public reaction. I'll simply point out that the vast majority of scientists, especially in the fields of Astronomy and Physics don't work for the government but for Univerities or research institutions, some of which are completely private. They are not going to keep quiet and sit on the biggest discovery, not just of their carreers but in all of human history, should they actually find something.

If you are really interested in what scientists think about this, at least those who don't dismiss it outright as cranks gone wild. you'd do yourself a great service by reading those two books I mentioned, preferably in that order. Sagan was a leading scientific force in SETI. The Search for Extra Terrestrial Intelligence. And that effort is still ongoing today.

So far, no sign.

- Peter.

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So, with that said...
Have the pretty women that are wanting to be probed, been taken over by aliens, except maybe ones from a different planet?


Just curious.

- Shelby

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The organizers of SETI are concerned that examination of planet's electromagentic signals is going to give the rest of the universe the wrong idea of Earth's current occupants . . . or is it?

I might check out those books sometime. Did the author mention anything about the countless alleged UFO sightings, including those by Air Force and commercial pilots? Or anything about the Roswell incident? I've heard that the govt tried to scare all the witnesses into silence and publicly claimed it was just a weather balloon with dummies, despite many accounts to the contrary.

My thinking is much like yours in that I need evidence to believe something as likely or possible. I rarely believe anything 100% but I also usually don't dismiss anything 100%. The evidence presented in those documentaries was quite convincing to me, though I can't say I'm certain that aliens have visited our planet, but I think it has probably happened.

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I’ve seen plenty of things in the air that I wasn’t quite sure of what they were. But never really put too much thought into them being aliens from some other planet.

Yes, I’ve been abducted. However, it was by Eskimos, not aliens from outer space.
(don’t ask)

If you’d like to see a real "UFO". No problem.
PM me your street address. I’ll come over your house so low and so fast that all you’ll know is that it was a flying object that you can’t identify.


- Shelby

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"Wrong" in the sense that its not the linage we want to cultivate?

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Yes, I'm aware that UFO simply means "unidentified". That's why I mentioned those accounts by pilots who we've seen their share of UFO's and who I think should be able to in most case discern alien objects from Earthly ones.

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