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Old 08-18-2009, 11:22 PM
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This should clear up any confusion about salvaging parts from the "clunkers".

Offical Goverment WEB site for CARS (Cash for clunkers)

http://www.cars.gov/dealer/faq#new-category-03


This should clear up any confusion on salvaging parts from the "clunkers".
Quoted from the Disclosure/Salvage/Disposal Questions Section:

Does the vehicle have to be crushed within 180 days?

YES the entire vehicle, including the engine block and drive train (unless the drive train is sold as separate parts), must be crushed or shredded within 180 days. Any part other than the engine block and drive train (unless the drive train is sold in separate parts) that is removed prior to 180 days may be inventoried and sold separately with no time restrictions.
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Old 08-18-2009, 11:37 PM
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"my customer has a vehicle that meets all the requirements but the transmission broke and will cost $1000 to fix,may this vehicle participate in the 'cars' program"??YES but only if the transmission is repaired.yeah right like i'm gonna put $1000 in a piece of crap worth $500.
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Old 08-18-2009, 11:48 PM
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"my customer has a vehicle that meets all the requirements but the transmission broke and will cost $1000 to fix,may this vehicle participate in the 'cars' program"??YES but only if the transmission is repaired.yeah right like i'm gonna put $1000 in a piece of crap worth $500.
The "piece of crap" is worth up to $4500. And transmissions should be readily available from cars already turn in.
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Old 08-18-2009, 11:57 PM
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What the heck does it mean, "unless the drivetrain is sold as separate parts"? What's the purpose of that clause? Seems that it means that transmission, driveshaft and rear end have to be itemized separately on an invoice. What difference does that make?
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What the heck does it mean, "unless the drivetrain is sold as separate parts"? What's the purpose of that clause? Seems that it means that transmission, driveshaft and rear end have to be itemized separately on an invoice. What difference does that make?
Seems to me the rules were written by g'ment functionaries that have incomplete knowledge of the auto sector.
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Old 08-19-2009, 12:06 AM
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Seems that it means that transmission, driveshaft and rear end have to be itemized separately on an invoice. What difference does that make?

They have to be separated to be removed anyhow, so it makes no difference. A mere technicality for whatever reason.
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Old 08-19-2009, 05:12 AM
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I want to have a look at the clunkers.

I have come down to Los Angeles and around noon today I'm going into some of he mega-yards to look at the new "clunkers" that I am told are coming in by the hundreds at a time.

Things like '03 Land Cruisers, 300CE coupes, unbelievable stuff in top condition is showing up, I'm told.


But I need to see with my own eyes. Maybe I will try to sneak my camera in too.


People trading in so-called "clunkers" to buy BRAND NEW clunkers.

Incredible; stupid.
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Old 08-19-2009, 07:15 AM
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I have come down to Los Angeles and around noon today I'm going into some of he mega-yards to look at the new "clunkers" that I am told are coming in by the hundreds at a time.

Things like '03 Land Cruisers, 300CE coupes, unbelievable stuff in top condition is showing up, I'm told.


But I need to see with my own eyes. Maybe I will try to sneak my camera in too.


People trading in so-called "clunkers" to buy BRAND NEW clunkers.

Incredible; stupid.

The stupidity of sheeple never fails to amaze me.

The very idea of this program makes me sick to my stomach.
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Does the vehicle have to be crushed within 180 days?

YES the entire vehicle, including the engine block and drive train (unless the drive train is sold as separate parts), must be crushed or shredded within 180 days. Any part other than the engine block and drive train (unless the drive train is sold in separate parts) that is removed prior to 180 days may be inventoried and sold separately with no time restrictions.
Hmmmm.
So if the yard pulled the engine, pulled the tranny, doors, hood, trunk, yanked the seats, I could make a deal to buy all the parts and shell (on seperate invoices of course) and have em trucked off site. Parts is parts right? Might take some time to put it all back together though.
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Old 08-19-2009, 10:41 AM
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Things like '03 Land Cruisers, 300CE coupes, unbelievable stuff in top condition is showing up, I'm told.

But I need to see with my own eyes. Maybe I will try to sneak my camera in too.

Incredible; stupid.
Top condition I surely doubt. The newest 300ce coupes are 17 years old. If they weren't properly taken care of, chances are they need many 1,000's of dollars of work mechanical, body, and paint work. And really, how many do you think are on that the lot, 1 maybe 2? Even so, they have the potential to be a bonanza for those that do want to maintain their cars, I wouldn't complain.
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Old 08-19-2009, 11:32 AM
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"my customer has a vehicle that meets all the requirements but the transmission broke and will cost $1000 to fix,may this vehicle participate in the 'cars' program"??YES but only if the transmission is repaired.yeah right like i'm gonna put $1000 in a piece of crap worth $500.

Doesn't the car have to be registered, road worthy and driveable? If the car has a "broken transmission" maybe it isn't driveable and fails to meet the gubment guidelines. Just thinking outloud.
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YES the entire vehicle, including the engine block and drive train (unless the drive train is sold as separate parts), must be crushed or shredded within 180 days. Any part other than the engine block and drive train (unless the drive train is sold in separate parts) that is removed prior to 180 days may be inventoried and sold separately with no time restrictions.
Notice the words "may be"? A lot of dealers are selling them to scrap yards and they're being crushed immediately. All of the dealers around here have been sending them to yards where they're being destroyed within two or three days. The scrap guys don't have time to pull parts off or space. I guess if they got something really intriguing they might grab some parts and sell them. From what I've heard dealers are selling them for scrap because they get more money that way, and the less used parts out there, the better for their parts department, right?

I'm glad to see cars ending up in junkyards for a while in some areas. Here, they aren't. Unless I buy a really, really flat car, I won't be reaping any parts from CFC locally.
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I wouldn't call all the people doing this stupid. Yeah, if you trade in a car that is worth more than $4500 its pretty dumb. The car has to be registered and insured for one whole year prior to trading it in. It also has to drive so it would be worth fixing a transmission for a grand to net $3500.
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Another big thing is that the car being traded in must be worth less than $4500 to qualify. If it is more they won't take it.
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i'm gonna go to the dealer by my job and see what they say about getting what i can off of the 126 they have on their clunker front lawn.
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